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S2E17 - We Interview a Shoe Collector w/ Patty and Brandon (Part 2)


Episode Description:

I’m joined by my husband and his cousin, Patrick, to talk about collections. Why have a collection? Why collect the things you collect? What would you collect if money wasn’t an issue? What do you do when you retire or get older? What’s the end goal? So many questions!

Patrick’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deguuzo/


Disclaimer:

Some parts of the transcript may be edited for better readability, but the content remains the same. Mostly removed duplicate words, vocal filler words, and added/removed some words for clarification.


Transcript:

Continuation from Part 1...


Meliza Manalo 39:24

Okay, what's that?


Patrick Deguzman 39:25

So I know you don't you say you don't really collect a lot of stuff. But I feel like you do collect a lot of equipment to be crafty. Would you consider that something a part of your collection? Because that's why you had a cricut, right?


Meliza Manalo 39:43

I have a Silhouette Cameo 4 exactly. Not a cricut (Laughter)


Patrick Deguzman 39:48

Okay. I had to clarify. You got a cricut for your podcast. You have a lot of artsy stuff that makes you like... would you consider that collection or just like a hobby? But a hobby is just like a collection.


Meliza Manalo 40:02

Yeah, we were just talking about how your hobby is a collection. Because I do have a lot of craft. I have a ton of craft stuff. I have a lot of Sillhoutte Cameo stuff. Like the different blades for it and different materials you can use for crafting. And I'm thinking is that a collection? Would you consider that a collection?


Patrick Deguzman 40:33

Yeah, I would say cuz you're using it. It's like a hobby to make stuff. And I know people have collections of like, this is my paintbrush for this, this is my paintbrush for that. And you're using that to build art, but they're like, yeah, this is part of my collection.


Meliza Manalo 40:52

If you made it this far into the episode, first of all, thank you for sticking around and enduring that awful audio. Second, at this point of the podcast, Patty was showing us his shoe collection, which I thought didn't make that great of a segment on a podcast for obvious reasons, of course. Also, I wanted to apologize in advance for the tapping. You can thank Patty for that. But I eventually called him out on it. So bear with us, it will stop. Alright, so we're cutting to us talking about what Patrick is doing in terms of social media. For some background info on this sometime last year, Patty was talking about being interested in doing a podcast and/or a YouTube channel. So I just wanted to know if he was still interested in doing that. I will plug Patty's Instagram page though, if you're interested in knowing more about him and his collection, it's @deguuzo. D-E-G-U-U-Z-O.. I'll add it to this description also, so definitely go and give him a follow.


Meliza Manalo 41:58

What are you doing? Social media wise?


Patrick Deguzman 42:01

Social media, geez, that has been my Achilles' heel right now. Like, I don't post on Instagram as like 'post' posts, but I'll post stories and then I'll update my story chains on my page. But I don't post because everything people use nowadays, they try and use it against you. And it literally could be anything.


Meliza Manalo 42:25

Against you?


Patrick Deguzman 42:26

Let me give you an example. So I had a picture. So you've seen this tattoo on my wrist, right? And you know where it's from, right?


Meliza Manalo 42:33

Yeah. Bioshock.


Patrick Deguzman 42:35

Okay, it's from Bioshock. And if you know what Bioshock is, it's a game. I also talked about it in the podcast we did before. But one of the biggest sayings in that whole game was 'A man chooses. A slave obeys'. So I had a picture of it posted of me with my fist of my tattoo, and somebody had DM me saying that," Oh, you got slave in your body. You support this, this and this." And then that's why I just kind of stopped posting after that. I didn't answer to him because I know how I am. But I didn't answer it. And I was like, that's kind of...


Brandon 43:11

No point answering anyways.


Patrick Deguzman 43:13

Yeah, it hit me. But I do want to make a YouTube channel. And I just want it to be literally about anything. It doesn't have to be one specific thing. But before I do that, I had already have a bunch of footage I need to edit for my buddy's channel. Because he's starting a YouTube channel called 'The Endless Archives'.


Meliza Manalo 43:36

I can plug that.


Patrick Deguzman 43:37

Yeah, once that gets up, yeah. You can plug him on his IG too. He's a good guy. He's also the guy who got me into shoes. So...


Meliza Manalo 43:47

Okay.


Patrick Deguzman 43:49

I have a bunch of footage of him and I talking, him showing people just useful facts on what to look for when dealing with shoes, how to see if things are fake and stuff like that. And I have a lot of footage I need to work with. It's been kind of a busy busy time trying to figure it out.


Meliza Manalo 44:09

Okay. I'm just curious if you're still doing that or not.


Patrick Deguzman 44:15

I really want to. The thing about making a YouTube channel is if I really wanted to go like big. And if I have to have a YouTube channel and I have to be active on it every day, or like almost every other day but I also have to get a TikTok, I have to have Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. I hate Twitter. I don't use Twitter because I don't understand Twitter. I have a Twitter but I don't know how to use it. And that sounds so crazy cuz I'm only 25. I don't know how to use frickin Twitter. And I feel like an old fart because I see these 16-17 year olds on Twitter. I'm like, how does it work?


Brandon 44:57

You should do Let's Plays.


Meliza Manalo 44:59

Yeah. Let's Plays.


Patrick Deguzman 45:00

Oh yeah, sure.


Brandon 45:02

You should do a game.


Meliza Manalo 45:07

Okay, are you going to do YouTube or you'll have a Podcast?


Patrick Deguzman 45:11

Honestly, I like talking. So I probably wouldn't mind doing a podcast and probably doing some YouTube stuff. I actually posted some videos of us playing Minecraft on Twitch.


Brandon 45:22

Oh, really?


Patrick Deguzman 45:24

I did and I had 10 people watching me one time because I had a play for Aiden and 10 people were watching me and I'm like, oh, who are these people? Because only Aiden was on there. But people were watching me and talking. I was like, oh, shoot. People are actually enjoying our content. (Plosive mic sound)


Meliza Manalo 45:40

Hey, what's that nose?


Patrick Deguzman 45:43

What noise?


Meliza Manalo 45:44

Are you playing with a can?


Patrick Deguzman 45:48

No. (Mic tapping sound) This?


Meliza Manalo 45:51

Yeah, what is that?


Patrick Deguzman 45:52

Oh, I was tapping the micstand.


Meliza Manalo 45:54

Oh, don't do that. (Laughter) I got this thing. Okay, when I started doing podcasts, I'm just like, okay, the viewers will know this. But do you see in the camera?


Patrick Deguzman 46:13

Yeah, you got a fidget cube.


Meliza Manalo 46:14

I have a fidget cube. You know why I got this?


Patrick Deguzman 46:18

So you don't touch the mic?


Meliza Manalo 46:19

Yeah, cuz I keep touching the mic. And I keep making these noises.


Patrick Deguzman 46:24

Yeah. I can hear the little rustling.


Meliza Manalo 46:26

Yeah, I can hear that when you play with your little mic and you're making noises. So I bought this Fidget Cube on Amazon because I'm like, I fidget a lot. I make a lot of noise. So I bought the fidget cubes so I wouldn't make that noise. But Patty, I can hear everything. (Laughter)


Patrick Deguzman 46:53

I'm not even tapping it lightly. I'm like tapping it hard. Like du-du-du-du-du-du. (Imitating tapping sound)


Meliza Manalo 47:04

If you're gonna do this, if you're gonna make it on YouTube or podcast or on a podcast, get yourself a Fidget Cube because I can't hear that sh*t.


Patrick Deguzman 47:15

Yeah. I mean... (Laughter).


Meliza Manalo 47:35

Yeah. You're on podcast. That won't be shown because they can't see you.


Patrick Deguzman 47:37

Yeah, this is Reginald. I got him at The Jurassic Park tour at Kualoa Ranch.


Meliza Manalo 47:45

Yeah. You had a little dinos... A dino... What is to called? A puppet?


Patrick Deguzman 47:52

A little dinosaur rubber hand puppet named Reginald. Sir Reginald John that's his name. of Koalua Ranch.? Sir Reginald John of the Koalua ranch.


Meliza Manalo 48:05

Yeah, and you know any podcasters trying to make a big or subconscious about their little podcast episode.


Brandon 48:16

Subconsciuos?


Meliza Manalo 48:17

Yeah, subconscious definitely. They have a fidget spinner or something. Because I fidget a lot. And I fidget with my, little.... what's it called?


Brandon 48:32

Wire.


Meliza Manalo 48:33

Yeah. The little wire and the cable that goes with your setup, and you can hear it because I play with it a lot. So I bought this fidget cube. So I can play with it. There are supposed to be settings and stuff where you can't hear it. So I play with it when I do interviews with people because I can't help it. I have to like play with something or like, lose my hands or something or whatever. But anyways.


Patrick Deguzman 49:06

Back to the topic. The I feel like low key I don't think I can be a hoarder in some ways in the collecting of things. Like I like to have a lot of different things. Whatever I do, I have a lot of electronic stuff. I have a lot of clothes, other shoes. A lot of activities, I have a skimboard, boogieboard, had a surfboard and a longboard. I have all this stuff. I think I might be a hoarder guys? Nah. I haven't controlled this just...


Brandon 49:47

If you can just walk around your house, I think you're fine.


Meliza Manalo 49:49

Yeah, definitely.


Brandon 49:51

That's my rule.


Meliza Manalo 49:53

Yeah.


Patrick Deguzman 49:54

Oh, yeah. When in doubt, if you can walk around the house, you're good.


Brandon 49:57

Yeah, as long as you've got little 20 inch pathway to every room, you'll be fine.


Meliza Manalo 50:04

20 inch?


Patrick Deguzman 50:06

Yeah, there's a lot of space over here. Oh, man. The biggest influence for this collection is just wanting to spend the funds to do these things. Or the time, because it was a lot of effort, a lot of talking, a lot of negotiating to get all the shoes for instance. The biggest way to get shoes for retail, here is raffling. You go to stores, you get tickets, they call you. If your ticket gets pulled, you go and you buy the shoes. For instance, on Saturday, I had just won a raffle for a shoe. (Coughing) Um, excuse me. Sorry. I'm not the lucky one. She's the lucky one getting my size in any shoe I need. Like, she's always getting the raffles. And me? I just think because I put it for her size, too. But she always seems to win it for me. So now the predicament I'm in is she wanted me a pair of shoes that everyone's gonna want. But I had already ordered the shoes months ago. And so, I'm gonna have two pairs of the same shoe.


Brandon 51:25

So you still want to keep one.


Patrick Deguzman 51:26

Yeah. Keep one.


Patrick Deguzman 51:27

Yeah, exactly. One is an 11. And one is a 10 and a half. And it's a four. So like, I had paid for the 11, besides 11 for a little bit extra, and then I'm getting this 10 and a half for retail. So it's not a gambling too, when it comes to this or trying to collect. Another thing I say about gambling or a big influence of me collecting is, whenever we play games like Fallout 3 or like Fallout New Vegas, we had to get every single named weapon.


Brandon 52:02

Oh, yeah.


Patrick Deguzman 52:03

Every single one. The adventure was so much fun to do.


Brandon 52:08

It made me realize now why they put that stuff in the game. People love that. I love doing that, like collecting all the unique items and stuff. When you search them in games, and you just have to find a reasonable one.


Patrick Deguzman 52:25

Yeah, it's like a satisfaction that's necessary for me to keep playing the game. You got all these little things like, Oh, if I do it this specific way I get this. If I do it this way I get this.


Brandon 52:41

Would you say that someone who loves collecting is also a completionist in some way or they're tied together?


Patrick Deguzman 52:50

I can say that. Yeah, they're tied together. Because I don't think my collection will ever be perfect or complete. Because they're always releasing stuff on the daily. There's so many apps on your phone you can look at for things to be released. And then there's so many stuff you can pick up. It's just crazy.


Brandon 53:16

Isn't it weird health, when you're really into something like that, you're always looking for the next thing to complete your collection, but it's never going to be completely? You just tell yourself that.


Patrick Deguzman 53:29

Yeah, the hardest question for the people ask me is, what are you gonna do with your shoes when you get old? Are you gonna keep your collection forever? You're gonna give it to people? What's your plan with this collection? And honestly, I feel like I'm gonna collect forever. And as I told you earlier and I told the people listening earlier, I started heavy collecting in September 2020. It's July 2021. And I'm at 30 to 40 pairs of shoes.


Brandon 54:05

But here's what you do with it.


Patrick Deguzman 54:12

If I keep doing that, and I get 50 pairs of shoes for the rest of my life. I'm only 25. Imagine how many pairs of shoes I'll have by the time I'm 50. If I keep doing this, I'll have a whole I'll probably have a whole room dedicated to just shoes.


Brandon 54:32

A lot more than a room.


Patrick Deguzman 54:34

Yeah. This guy has a million-dollar collection and he has a room dedicated to his shoes. And instead of seeing the wallpaper all you see is shoe boxes. His wallpaper is shoe boxes. And he has it like formed towards his windows. He has shoes wrapped around his window meaning that it makes a perfect archway.


Brandon 55:00

One thing you can do is you can buy a footlocker, put all your shoes and get rid of the stock, put all your shoes in it. But never actually sell anything.


Brandon 55:13

Buy like a foot locker?


Brandon 55:15

Yeah. Just get it from a foot locker store.


Patrick Deguzman 55:20

Make it into an art gallery. A shoe gallery.


Brandon 55:23

Oh, yeah. And then you can charge poeple to come in.


Patrick Deguzman 55:26

Yeah, like five bucks to come in. And then one day, I might feel lucky. Like hey, you know ehat? I feel like selling this pair. Then somebody who wants it, I'll just sell it.


Brandon 55:35

That could be like a thing. You know, people will come in every day. You know, they'll be waiting in line every day. And they'll be like, "Oh, man, I hope he decides he wants to sell this pair today."


Patrick Deguzman 55:47

Exactly. I'd have to get really really big. Cuz some of the YouTubers I watch, every time they post something, everything they sell is just gone instantly. And I'm like, dang, that's not even like a crazy shoe. But it has his story behind it and his following behind it. So everybody wants it, you know? I think collection collecting is a big part of my life right now. I think it's gotten worse because of COVID. Mostly because we stayed indoors. And there's not really much to do but go out and get stuff here. Because when COVID is going on, we had to stay. We couldn't go inside that much to like eat. Or not eat, we cannot eat in restaurants and stuff. We can't really go to the beach that often. So like a lot of the time, it was just me looking and buying shoes. If that makes sense.


Brandon 56:37

That could be advantageous, though. Because what I've been thinking over the last years, anytime I want to buy something that's of value or that may potentially grow in value, I'm thinking well, maybe I should buy it this year 2020. Because in the future, everyone will remember this year. And things from this year will become a value in the future. Because we'll say, hey, this is a 2020 era, you know, whatever item this is. And that was during this crazy time in the world. And it'll increase the value is what I'm guessing. You have like a 2020 made shoe. It would be like a COVID era shoe or something, you know? It might be worth 25% or 30% more than that of a 2021 model of whatever it is.


Patrick Deguzman 57:29

It's funny you say that because I'm about to show you guys something. Okay, it's a Nike SB dunk. It came out in... Let me find the year. I don't want to give them the wrong year. What was the release date? Oh, actually, it didn't release. That's the thing. But there was pairs that were taken out. It's called the Strawberry Cough. And this shoe never really released. But sales a bit are going upwards of like $1500. And it was very controversial. This is what I heard. I could be wrong. This is what I heard from few YouTubers I've watched. A lot of people didn't want to sell it was because it literally came out right around COVID. And they didn't want to associate it with COVID. This is what I heard from people. It could be wrong.


Brandon 58:24

Exactly. The name has COUGH crying out.


Patrick Deguzman 58:28

Yeah. So people didn't want to affiliate that Yeah, but in the future when COVID goes away because it will go away, because I'm ready for things to go back to normal. Wishful thinking. But in the future, because this thing wasn't released, this is gonna probably be a good $5000-$6,000 shoe.


Brandon 58:49

Yeah.


Meliza Manalo 58:50

That's so good.


Patrick Deguzman 58:52

Exactly. And it's also a very interesting colorway too. And a lot of people like these outlandish shoes. Like there's this one that I'll show you guys. Now it's called the Strange Love. And it's pink. It's pinker than pink. It's felt and it's made out of, I call it like this. I don't know how to put it. It's like a velvety velvet suede.


Meliza Manalo 59:27

Don't mind Patty's typing.


Patrick Deguzman 59:29

Sorry, guys. (Laughter) This thing is like... I showed it to you. It's pink. It's called Strange Love. And these things go for like $1200.


Meliza Manalo 59:47

Oh, yeah.


Patrick Deguzman 59:49

It's such an outlandish color. Personally, this is one of the pairs I really want to get. But this is like one of those things. It's also collab with one of the artists but it's such an outlandish color, but it's so nice that everybody wants it. And that's kind of how I see the Strawberry Coughs going. Maybe one day. Yeah, that's kind of like you never know.


Meliza Manalo 1:00:12

Even I like it.


Patrick Deguzman 1:00:15

Exactly. And then then you got stuff like this...


Meliza Manalo 1:00:20

Sorry to people in the podcast who are listening.


Patrick Deguzman 1:00:26

Clickety clackety. I'm gonna keep tippity tappiting. And then you got stuff like this. You think it would be a lot because it's behind a very, very known Latin artist. J Balvin. He's a Latin artist. His music's pretty good. At least I like it. It's very dancey. I thought this shoe was gonna go for at least at least two grands, but it's only going for like $400-$500 right now. Which I think is crazy. So you never know what's going to be hot and what's going to be a not. It's such a gamble with this shoe. It's kind of like buy stocks in a sense. Because you never know what's going to go up. But I will say this shoe is gonna definitely go up in a few years when more pairs get worn and less pairs are available. Because this came out December last year.


Meliza Manalo 1:01:27

Okay, okay. So for the listeners, will you send us pictures of your shoe collection?


Patrick Deguzman 1:01:37

Oh well, I?


Meliza Manalo 1:01:39

Yeah.


Patrick Deguzman 1:01:40

Oh, of course. But it's nothing too crazy to jump out your seat about but it's definitely a big collection. I'm more proud of how I set up the living room honestly, than actually like, I'm proud of the shoes. I like the shoes in the corner. But I like the way I set it up.


Meliza Manalo 1:02:02

So if money isn't an option, what would you collect? What would you want to collect if money wasn't an option?


Patrick Deguzman 1:02:14

You really want to know what I would collect if I could?


Meliza Manalo 1:02:17

Yeah, if money was an option, whatever you want to do, Patty, what would your collection be?


Patrick Deguzman 1:02:23

Honestly, this might surprise you. Art. Like hype art. But nothing too crazy, Supreme, there's too much Supreme. I've seen some art, for instance, I'm gonna clickity clackity real quick. Give me a second guys. I don't want you to hear the tip tap tap.


Meliza Manalo 1:02:43

Okay.


Patrick Deguzman 1:02:49

Alright, so what I just posted it to them, it's a rug. It's a Virgil Abloh rug. It says "KEEP OFF" on it. And I think this is one of the coolest pieces of art I've seen in a while. And a lot of his stuff is really, really cool. Because it's interesting. It's different. You know the rug that goes for $3000. It's a red rug. But in quotations, it says "Blue" in the middle. And I don't know what it is about it, but it just speaks to me.


Meliza Manalo 1:03:24

Virgil?


Patrick Deguzman 1:03:25

Virgil Abloh. He makes the Off white shoes. Yeah, he owns Off White.


Meliza Manalo 1:03:30

Alright.


Patrick Deguzman 1:03:31

Yeah, he has all these different artworks. And I just think this is kind of like the art I like. It's different. I would hang up a rug on a wall and be like, this is it. I like this kind of art or cars. I like the car's artworks. I like Banksy's too. I would probably collect a lot of fine art and put it up on the wall. Or hype art too.


Meliza Manalo 1:03:51

Yeah, I agree. For me. I love Audrey Kawasaki. And let's see what's the good one. Let me clickety clackety.


Patrick Deguzman 1:04:05

Clickety clackety, let's keep tapping.


Meliza Manalo 1:04:08

So another good one is Joyce Lee. Joyce Lee is a great one. But about the NSFW if you will, Patty, you liked... What's his name?


Patrick Deguzman 1:04:20

One of the artists I like is Virgil Abloh.


Meliza Manalo 1:04:24

Brandon, what are you doing?


Brandon 1:04:27

For art?


Meliza Manalo 1:04:27

Yeah, for art. What's your favorite artist?


Brandon 1:04:30

I don't really have a favorite artists. I'm a peasant who doesn't know anything about art.


Patrick Deguzman 1:04:39

You know, it'd be very cool Brandon and I think Mia would get on top of it? If we got some guns. And you try to draw something.


Brandon 1:04:50

Haha. I've drawn a smiley face before.


Patrick Deguzman 1:04:54

Exactly. And I think honestly if you did that and you put it on a piece of sheet metal, and I was able to like send it down so it doesn't poke holes in my wall, I would hang it up on my wall. Because in my opinion, that's cool art. It's something you've done, and it's an experience. And I think that would be something cool to hang up on the wall. Literally, I think that's cool to me personally. I visualize that as something that I would actually like. I have a picture of a skeleton. It's a little tapestry of a skeleton going like this. His name is Richard. And it's funny. I call him Richard and I hang him up and people are like, "Yeah, that's Richard. He's kind of a d*ck." And it's funny. It's a little humorous. And I just think that's the kind of stuff I like to hang. They're like, "Oh, what's that smiley face?" Like, oh, my cousin shot that out for me. And he shot out. I use this rifle. And I just think it's pretty cool thing. You know, just stuff like that, stuff to talk about.


Brandon 1:05:49

Yeah, I'll make you one.


Patrick Deguzman 1:05:53

Yeah, I'll definitely hang it up on my wall too. (Laughter)


Brandon 1:05:56

Are you gonna get this rug that ever gets dirty?


Patrick Deguzman 1:05:59

The rug that never gets dirty? The one you don't step on? Step in the holes. (Laughter) I would get so much anxiety trying to make sure I don't step in the wrong hole.


Meliza Manalo 1:06:11

Alright. Anything else you want to say about collection? We talked about what you collect and why you collect? And why do you like collecting them all that good, juicy stuff. What are you going to do the collection when you get older and it's time for retirement?


Brandon 1:06:28

We talked about that.


Patrick Deguzman 1:06:29

Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, me and Brandon. Yeah.


Meliza Manalo 1:06:31

I was in the bathroom. Sorry.


Patrick Deguzman 1:06:33

No, we talked about it, but I can elaborate a little bit more on it. So the biggest issue I had or the biggest concern I had getting into collecting is like, what would I do with my collection as I got old? And my friend Jessica, who I brought up earlier, who has been collecting since she was in middle school, told me like, "Give it to your kids." And I honestly think that that's probably what I would do, because I like them. And I want them to be a part of my life, because I like my shoes. But I just think it's a hard thing to answer. Because yes, I can give it to the kids, I can sell them for money. I can flat out donate them somewhere if I really need to get rid of them. But honestly, I don't know what I'm gonna do with all the shoes later on. I want to keep them. We'll just see how this goes in time to be honest.


Meliza Manalo 1:07:34

Yeah, that's a good answer.


Patrick Deguzman 1:07:36

Because I still have stuff. I have like a Memory Box, I guess you can say that I've had since I was in first year of middle school, sixth grade. It has stuff all in back from there. And I'm not going to get rid of it. And I don't plan on getting rid of it. And I've added to it too. So it's like, I don't know, when I'm going to get rid of this thing, or what I'm going to get rid of that. I don't know, it's weird. It's a hard question to ask.


Meliza Manalo 1:08:05

So for listeners, Patty is in the Navy. So my question is, how do you deal with having collection but also being in the Navy, where you have to be deployed at any place at any time?


Patrick Deguzman 1:08:22

So like I said, my momentum of collecting has started last year, and everything was kind of put on hold. I've actually talked to fellow active-duty members about how they go about transferring or dealing with their collections. Some say when they go on deployment, and they know they're coming back, they go to storage. When we leave, when we do like pack out when the military pays for us to move, I had one of the buddies I was talking to who collects sneakers. He was telling me that he used to just have the military pack it out for him. But he would pre stage and pack everything in itself. But then he would invest in the amount of money he had paid for all the shoes, he'd pay for it in insurance. Like he'd insure every single shoe, put every single ecn and blah, blah, blah, everything. He would label everything, put it on a list, like a manifest kind of thing. And he would give it to his insurance company and be like alright. Because he has like hundreds of pairs of shoes. So that's how we did it. But then this time, he was telling me he wanted to try it where he shipped it out himself. Like he packed it all himself and shifted to his next place before he got there. And he told me that costed him a lot of money. So if I go on deployment, I know I'm coming back, I'm putting it in a storage but I'm gonna make sure the storage is well controlled and stuff like that. Obviously cover all my stuff. But if I'm leaving, it's the biggest question on whether and I want to spend the money to ship it myself. Or I want to just pack it out and do the manifest of insurance and make sure I get my money back for all that stuff if it gets lost. So I'm probably going to just pack it and then get insurance and get more insurance on it. So I think that's what I'm gonna do.


Meliza Manalo 1:10:07

So once you're done with it, you want to come back home?


Patrick Deguzman 1:10:13

Personally, I would love to go back to Sac. I would love to go there because everybody's there and I feel like I missed out on a lot of things in the family. But obviously it depends on obviously how I'm doing in my relationship. Because she said she's willing to come to Sac. Obviously, we're gonna have to play by time. Play it by year. I'm probably gonna end up doing 20 till I'm gonna get out. Because I didn't get out and go to work and then hopefully...


Brandon 1:10:43

You get to retire after that right?


Patrick Deguzman 1:10:46

Yep, I'm hoping I can get more shoes.


Meliza Manalo 1:10:50

Oh, geez Patty.


Patrick Deguzman 1:10:52

Honestly, this is the thing that I was saying now. I will probably stop collecting shoes when I get the one pair of shoes that I want. There's only one pair of shoes in existence that I personally like. If I get this shoe, I think I might be done. It's only because 1) It's an expensive shoe. 2) It's very clean. Also, I'll post a picture of him. Here comes some clickety clackety. It's called the Eminem Carhartt 4. It may go for like $1000 five figures, the lowest asks is a size 11. You can buy a pair for $99 million.


Meliza Manalo 1:11:43

Oh my God.


Brandon 1:11:44

Ohh.


Patrick Deguzman 1:11:45

That's only because the person who's selling them probably can't figure out a bid to put on him or he really doesn't want to sell them unless somebody actually gives him that unreasonably high pay. But they are so nice in my opinion. And I love Eminem too. So, it's just a cool shoe. And if I get this, I would probably stop collecting shoe. I would trade my whole collection for those.


Brandon 1:12:16

Oh Eminem the rapper and not the candy?


Meliza Manalo 1:12:26

What? It's insane.


Brandon 1:12:26

They're made out of...


Brandon 1:12:26

Is that with metal laces?


Patrick Deguzman 1:12:33

So I've never seen him in a person and I've only seen him in video so I couldn't tell you but I would assume, no. Because metal laces. But I'm not entirely sure. I cannot tell you.


Brandon 1:12:46

I thought it's actually metal but still looks cool.


Patrick Deguzman 1:12:49

Yeah. Have you ever worn a Carhartt jacket or seen a Carhartt's shirt Brandon?


Meliza Manalo 1:12:54

No.


Brandon 1:12:55

Yeah, I've worn a jacket and my shoes are Carhartt.


Meliza Manalo 1:12:59

Is it? Whaaaat?


Patrick Deguzman 1:12:59

Yeah, so these shoes are made out of that material.


Brandon 1:13:04

My work boots are Carhartt. And they're the best work boots I've ever had.


Patrick Deguzman 1:13:08

Yeah. This material is made out of Carhartt. And on the back on the right shoe is the Eminem's backwards 'E'. And then on his left shoe, it's the slaughterhouse logo. And I think it's hands down one of the best shoes in my opinion. And I think that'll be my end goal if I get this shoe. But if I get this shoe, I might be at a place to where I'm so financially okay that I don't need to worry about it. I'll even get this shoe in the size. It's not even my size. I will never wear this shoe. I will put it on display because it would be a nice shoe. Like to have a size 12 going for 12,000 right now, I would buy that size 12 and just put it up on rotation just to show it off. I probably wouldn't wear it, to be honest.


Meliza Manalo 1:14:01

So to end this podcast, what advice you have for people who want to start their own collection?


Patrick Deguzman 1:14:09

Any collection or shoes?


Meliza Manalo 1:14:12

Yeah, whatever.


Brandon 1:14:13

Just do it.


Meliza Manalo 1:14:16

Brandon's opinion is just do it.


Patrick Deguzman 1:14:20

Yeah. That's a good one Brandon. He's not lying though. If you want to start a collection and you feel passionate about something or you're curious about something, just f*cking do it. Like really, I didn't think I was gonna be this far into my collection just for me starting throughout a year. But honestly, if you love something, or if you want to get into something and you think you genuinely like something, just do it. And that doesn't even go for just collecting, like if you want to just get anywhere in life just you got to do it. Go out and do it and you'll achieve more than you think. Obviously sometimes you go down. But in reality, if you keep doing it and doing it and doing it, then you'll have to go, you'll get somewhere. So I say if you're going to start collecting something, or if you're going to start doing something, just go out and do it. And this is my little thing, my pet peeve. Don't sell the first pair of shoes you ever get. When somebody asks you, what was the first pair of shoes you get? And you have 1000s of pairs later and you don't remember that shoe. Like, why would you get rid of like the thing that started it all?


Brandon 1:15:37

And this thing is with not just shoes. Just anything that someone's collecting.


Patrick Deguzman 1:15:39

Anything in general. The thing that starts your collection should be the thing that gets you the most excited. I still have my white mids and they are B. but they're on the shelf right now. And they will forever be on that shelf and I'll never get rid of them.


Brandon 1:15:55

That's absolutely true.


Meliza Manalo 1:15:56

Right.


Patrick Deguzman 1:15:57

Just f*cking do it.


Meliza Manalo 1:16:01

Just do it everybody.


Patrick Deguzman 1:16:02

Just do it Mr. slave. No Nike affiliation.


Meliza Manalo 1:14:16

Brandon, do you have any last thing to say?


Brandon 1:16:11

See you later.


Patrick Deguzman 1:16:14

Alligator.


Meliza Manalo 1:16:15

Any advice for people who want to collect stuff?


Brandon 1:16:18

I already said. Just do it. Nike said it better than I did.


Patrick Deguzman 1:16:23

And that's why they make the big bucks.


Brandon 1:16:25

You're actually right.


Meliza Manalo 1:16:27

So thanks, everyone. Thanks, guys.


Patrick Deguzman 1:16:29

Tell your friends, put the follows. Let's get her up to 2000.


Meliza Manalo 1:16:33

All right, thanks for making it to the end. Hope the audio wasn't too unbearable. Luckily, Patty did most of the talking. So, that definitely was helpful. That's what I get for drinking during an episode. Anyways, if you enjoy what you hear, and want to stay up to date on the show, please follow me on Facebook and/on Instagram. You can also check out my website at thetalkativeintrovertpodcast.com. All the information will be on there as well as in the show notes. If you want to help support the show, please review and rate the podcast and share it with your friends and family. Thanks so much and I'll talk to you guys in the next episode.


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