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S1E21 - MBTI & Hogwarts w/ Mia Russell and Shannon Ebler (Part 2)

Episode Description:

I am joined in this episode by my two amazing friends, Mia and Shannon. In this episode, we’re going to reveal our Myers Briggs personality types and which Hogwarts house we got placed into.

If you want to see which house you belong to, here is the link:

Here is the article I mention that sorted people into the different houses based on their Myers Briggs personality type:

We also go off on quite a few tangents, but if you want to take the enneagram test, here is one that was suggested to me:


Some parts of the transcript may be edited for better readability, but the content remains the same. Mostly removed duplicate words, vocal filler words, and added/removed some words for clarification.


Continuation from Part 1...

Mia Russell 35:11

Yeah. I always wanted to be a Gryffindor.

Shannon 35:16

Yeah, I feel like my second would maybe be Ravenclaw.

Meliza Manalo 35:20


Shannon 35:20

I think that was my second.

Mia Russell 35:22


Meliza Manalo 35:22


Mia Russell 35:22


Meliza Manalo 35:22

I think so too. That's funny.

Shannon 35:25

So funny.

Meliza Manalo 35:26

So, because I was reading that article and then you guys did. 'The Hogwarts house of each Myer-Briggs personality type'. And for my personality type, it's either Ravenclaw or Slytherin. And then I asked Brandon what house do you think I'm in? He's like, "It's probably Ravenclaw or Slytherin." I was like, no.

Mia Russell 35:47


Meliza Manalo 35:48

That's cynical. I guess I can be. (Laughter) So, for... what are you again, Shannon? You're an IF...

Shannon 35:59

ISFJ is what we determined as the real truth.

Meliza Manalo 36:05

ISFJ. So, most likely choice is Hufflepuff.

Shannon 36:10

Yeah? Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 36:11

Yeah. (Laughter)

Shannon 36:14

Okay, so now we know officially I'm a defender personality, who knows what's going on with that adventure thing? But it's out the window.

Meliza Manalo 36:22

Yeah, and then Mia you're INFP?

Mia Russell 36:26

I just forgot. Hold on.

Meliza Manalo 36:27

yeah, INFP. I wrote it down.

Mia Russell 36:29

Yes. INFP-T.

Meliza Manalo 36:31

So, your most likely choice is Hufflepuff but your second most likely is Gryffindor.

Mia Russell 36:38

Yeah, see?

Shannon 36:39

Oh, that's funny. So, they align. Look at that. Oohh.

Mia Russell 36:45

Yeah. Makes sense.

Meliza Manalo 36:48

It does make sense. Like I don't want to be associated with Slytherin, but at the same time like, yeah. I'm Slytherin.

Shannon 36:59

I could definitely see you as a little bit Slytherin. Not like a lot but I could see it.

Meliza Manalo 37:03

Yeah, like a nice Slytherin, you know?

Mia Russell 37:06

Yeah. Like...

Meliza Manalo 37:06

Not quite Draco but....

Mia Russell 37:09


Shannon 37:11

Right. Well, here I pulled up this like graphic. I think I put it in our chat too. But let's... I'm going to read some of what it says they are for Slytherin just to see what jumps out at us for you. "Ambitious, driven, focused on goals, determined, prepared, perfectionist, adaptable, realistic, big on cost benefit analysis."

Meliza Manalo 37:37


Shannon 37:38

"Self-reliant, charming, bold, assertive, ruthless, able to separate their idea of themselves from what they do, able to use their intelligence as a tool to achieve their goals."

Meliza Manalo 37:53

Yeah, that's about right.

Shannon 37:55

I could see it. I could see it.

Meliza Manalo 38:04

Okay. And that happened. Because the INTJ, I guess their spirit animal is also a snake.

Shannon 38:12


Meliza Manalo 38:13

I was like dang! Makes me sound bad. Even though...

Shannon 38:19

This says, "Remember Slytherins are not gratuitous... gratuitously mean. In fact, they treat people with respect because they care about the impression they give."

Meliza Manalo 38:28


Shannon 38:29

So, it's like, you know, not all Slytherins are bad.

Meliza Manalo 38:33

Yeah. But JK Rowling wrote it like they were.

Shannon 38:41

They're the bad house.

Mia Russell 38:43


Meliza Manalo 38:45

Well, there. There's our houses.

Shannon 38:47

We did it.

Meliza Manalo 38:48

We did it, guys.

Mia Russell 38:49

We talked about our houses. Okay. So, while you guys were talking, I also took the Anagram test.

Meliza Manalo 38:57

The anagram, the Enneagram?

Mia Russell 38:59

The Enneagram. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 39:01

Okay. I was like, what's an anagram? Isn't that the one where it's like words. And then like...

Shannon 39:06

Hey, that's just some slithering attitude there. Get that out of here.

Mia Russell 39:13

So, I'm enneagram 2. With an 88% match is described as, "The giver two's want to be liked and find ways that they can be helpful to others so that they can be loved and belonged."

Shannon 39:28

Can you send that link?

Mia Russell 39:30

Oh, wait, no, I'm a 98%. Yeah, I'm a 90% match for a four and a six. Jesus Christ. How do I tell what I am then?

Shannon 39:38

Wait, what?

Meliza Manalo 39:39

So, you can be multiple numbers?

Mia Russell 39:41

I guess so.

Meliza Manalo 39:43

That's confusing.

Shannon 39:43

That's confusing.

Mia Russell 39:46

Because a four is individualist. A six is the skeptic. What? Okay. Yeah, sorry, I brought it up. But there you go.

Meliza Manalo 39:55

Is this the $12 one or the free one?

Mia Russell 39:58

I think it's the free one. Cuz I didn't pay.

Shannon 39:59

Can you send the link in the chat?

Mia Russell 40:02


Meliza Manalo 40:02

Yeah. Can you send the link in the chat?

Shannon 40:03

Now I'm just curious. I want to take it too.

Meliza Manalo 40:05


Shannon 40:07

And I can take the free one now and can do the...

Meliza Manalo 40:10

On payday, we can take the other quiz. (Laughter) I'll send you guys the other one. The link to the other.

Shannon 40:18

Yeah, please do.

Meliza Manalo 40:20

I'll link it in the show notes too, even though that's not what we're talking about today. That one like, I know nothing about enneagrams. I just know there's a chart. And there's numbers and that you're sorted with numbers.

Mia Russell 40:33

Yeah, it's like a pie chart.

Meliza Manalo 40:34

A pie chart?

Mia Russell 40:35


Shannon 40:35

Understand who you truly are.

Mia Russell 40:37

Oh, it's $19? Ooohh.

Meliza Manalo 40:40


Mia Russell 40:42


Meliza Manalo 40:42

I don't know if I care that much.

Shannon 40:44

That's pushing it a little bit.

Mia Russell 40:46

Yeah. I feel like the free ones definitely cut it enough for me.

Meliza Manalo 40:51

People listening are probably like, you guys can't afford $19? (Laughter)

Mia Russell 40:57

Well, hey, here's my Venmo link. If you want to really know. Just send it on over bud.

Meliza Manalo 41:06

Then we'll reveal it in a separate episode.

Mia Russell 41:09


Shannon 41:10


Mia Russell 41:11

Part 2 coming soon.

Shannon 41:13

To a podcast near you. Or a podcast streaming service. I don't know. You know what I mean. You got it.

Meliza Manalo 41:20

Streaming on all the popular podcast platforms. That's what people say. Streaming. That's what they say.

Mia Russell 41:28

To be honest, I wanted to call Meliza Slytherin, but I felt bad. (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 41:35

You could've just said it. It's okay. I don't get offended easily.

Mia Russell 41:38


Shannon 41:39

Yeah, definitely. Now that now that it's out there, Meliza is a Ravenclaw with Slytherin tendencies.

Mia Russell 41:46

Yeah. I'm a Gryffindor with Hufflepuff tendencies.

Shannon 41:50

And I am a Hufflepuff. And maybe a Ravenclaw also maybe.

Mia Russell 41:54

Yeah, you're like a smart Hufflepuff.

Shannon 41:56


Meliza Manalo 41:57

A Hufflepuff is not smart.

Shannon 42:02

It's not like the general characteristic.

Mia Russell 42:04

Yeah, it's just like they're...

Shannon 42:05

Like, Hufflepuffs are loyal friends. Like, that's their big thing, right? Like, each one...

Meliza Manalo 42:10

They're naive.

Shannon 42:12

...has their like, main things that describe them. But it doesn't mean, you know, I'm not other things.

Mia Russell 42:19


Shannon 42:22

Guys, is it important to me that other people like me? I think so.

Meliza Manalo 42:27

Is it important to you?

Shannon 42:28

Yeah. I think so.

Mia Russell 42:29

Are you asking us?

Shannon 42:30

Yeah, I'm taking this with you guys.

Meliza Manalo 42:32

Are you asking us who you are?

Mia Russell 42:33

I think that kind of proves its own point. (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 42:41


Shannon 42:44

Okay, I won't take the rest of it with you. Is it just one page? How many pages is this?

Mia Russell 42:49

Like six.

Shannon 42:51

Oh, okay.

Mia Russell 42:52


Meliza Manalo 42:53

What are we talking about? What pages? What?

Shannon 42:55

The Enneagram.

Mia Russell 42:56

The quiz that I can't pronounce.

Shannon 42:58

Meaning the enneagram.

Meliza Manalo 43:00

Oh, Enneagram.

Mia Russell 43:02


Shannon 43:03

I'm never gonna remember that.

Mia Russell 43:05

The gram.

Meliza Manalo 43:05

Yeah. Do you guys know your Zodiac? Right now?

Mia Russell 43:08

Yes. I'm a Taurus, which is characterized as being super stubborn. And I totally agree with that.

Meliza Manalo 43:15


Shannon 43:15

I mean, I'm a Leo. (Laughter)

Mia Russell 43:19

I'm a Leo!

Meliza Manalo 43:20

I don't think you're a Leo.

Shannon 43:22

No, because like, the big thing with Leo is like, you know, center of attention is a common trait associated with that, and I am not that.

Mia Russell 43:31

Let me grab my book.

Meliza Manalo 43:32


Shannon 43:32

I might have to like Google it. But to figure other characteristics.

Mia Russell 43:36

When is your birthday?

Shannon 43:37


Meliza Manalo 43:38

You don't know her birthday?

Mia Russell 43:40


Meliza Manalo 43:41

August 10th.

Shannon 43:42

August 10th.

Mia Russell 43:44

Oh, my book opened up to August 8th. So that was close.

Shannon 43:46


Mia Russell 43:48

Okay. So, August 10th. Let me see what...

Shannon 43:53

Okay, so Leo is my Sun. I just found these. My moon is Capricorn. And my rising is Virgo. Which I don't... you know, yeah, I need someone else to tell me what that means.

Mia Russell 44:08

There's also fixed star readings in here. So, if you want to know what your constellation is, it's Alpha Ursa Major.

Shannon 44:16

Let me write that down. What does that even mean?

Meliza Manalo 44:18

Oh, the big bear.

Shannon 44:19


Mia Russell 44:20

Yeah, as in the bear.

Shannon 44:22

Okay. And major? Is that what you said?

Mia Russell 44:25

Yeah, Alpha Ursa Major.

Shannon 44:27


Mia Russell 44:27

Your degree position is 4°9'.

Shannon 44:32


Mia Russell 44:32

So, 15°2'.

Shannon 44:34

Wait, what? Wait, wait, wait, what?

Mia Russell 44:38

I don't know. That's what the book says.

Shannon 44:39

15°2'? So, wait, what is that? There are two coordinates?

Mia Russell 44:42

Okay. Your degree is 17° to 18°. Leo. Your mode is fixed. Your element is fire.

Shannon 44:48


Mia Russell 44:50

Fire! Your positives are higher learning artistic talents, beautiful voice. Negatives are worry, insecurity, lack of imagination, inclination to materialism.

Shannon 45:02

Oh my god. We have the mirror here. (Laughter)

Mia Russell 45:04

Geez, that's weird. What's your birthday Meliza?

Meliza Manalo 45:12

January 19th.

Mia Russell 45:14

Okay. So, your sun is Capricorn, your degree is 27 to 29 Capricorn. Element is Earth. Why isn't it giving me the...? Doesn't give me your breakdown?

Meliza Manalo 45:28

I'm a mystery. I can't be solved.

Mia Russell 45:30

You're funny, ambitious, and dynamic, yet idealistic and sensitive. Decisive and resourceful. You possess depth of vision, but the dreamer side of your nature is compassionate and impressionable.

Meliza Manalo 45:41


Mia Russell 45:41

Dynamic centered, creative, leadership progressive, optimistic, strong convictions, competitive, independent, gregarious. Negative, self-centered, worry, fear projection, materialistic, egotistical, impatient. That doesn't really sound like you.

Meliza Manalo 45:57


Mia Russell 45:57

That's pretty brutal.

Meliza Manalo 45:59

It is. I'm appalled.

Mia Russell 46:04

I'm appalled!

Meliza Manalo 46:09

Egotistical. Geez.

Mia Russell 46:11

Hang on, let's do mine and see how bad it is. (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 46:17

I need a professional to tell me all the things I want to hear.

Shannon 46:21


Mia Russell 46:23

Okay, so my positives are inspiration, creativity, love unions, long lasting relationships. Negatives are dependency, nervousness, loss of emotional control, lack of vision, disappointment, fear of change. I feel like that's pretty accurate.

Meliza Manalo 46:37

Is it?

Mia Russell 46:38


Meliza Manalo 46:39


Mia Russell 46:40

And my constellation is Beta Andromedae. Weird.

Meliza Manalo 46:44

Wait, what is my constellation?

Mia Russell 46:46

Yours was... Why doesn't it give me your constellation? Oh, your constellation is not that just kidding. It's not giving me one for those two days. That's the weirdest thing.

Meliza Manalo 47:00

Are you serious?

Mia Russell 47:01


Shannon 47:03

What does that mean? Oh, my God. What does that mean?

Meliza Manalo 47:05

Yeah, what does that mean? Do I not align to a constellation? Like that time of the year, it just doesn't... Actually, I don't even know what that means to have a constellation. Like that's where the stars were...?

Mia Russell 47:17

What were you? January 20th?

Meliza Manalo 47:20


Shannon 47:20

19th. (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 47:24

Jesus. Man, I just told you.

Mia Russell 47:28

Okay. So, you're a Capricorn Virgo. Because you're on the cusp of Capricorn and Aquarius, too.

Meliza Manalo 47:35


Mia Russell 47:36

So, technically you're part Aquarius, as well.

Meliza Manalo 47:39

Okay. I don't know what any of that means.

Mia Russell 47:44

We'll have to look at this book together. Because they're pretty interesting.

Meliza Manalo 47:48

Cuz I...

Shannon 47:48

Yeah. I'd love to know what all this means.

Meliza Manalo 47:50

Yeah, me too. Because it's always been fascinating. Like, I've always been kind of skeptical of Zodiac sign. Like, it's just your birthday, you know? Because there's plenty of people are born around the same time. Because Shannon, she's a Leo. But so are Brandon and Bailey. And Brandon and Bailey are pretty similar personality types and they're very much Leo's, I feel like. But Shannon is nothing like those two. (Laughter)

Mia Russell 48:16

Shannon just doesn't fit anywhere.

Shannon 48:18

Right. Can we Google what are the characteristics of Leo? Huh?

Meliza Manalo 48:22

So, this became a Zodiac episode. (Laughter)

Shannon 48:27

We're just jumping from thing to thing. I'm still trying to finish this any enneagram quiz.

Meliza Manalo 48:32


Shannon 48:32

But now I'm doing this.

Mia Russell 48:34

Yeah, mine is just stubbornness. And...

Shannon 48:38

Oh, here we go.

Mia Russell 48:38

Beauty, artistry, and hedonism.

Shannon 48:41

Okay, we're looking at some of these... I don't know, but because I'm not a center of attention. And I know that's a huge Leo thing normally. But this website, and this is just... I just clicked on this link. So, I don't know, you know. This is So, this says strengths, creative, passionate, generous, warm hearted, cheerful, humorous. And then weaknesses, arrogant, stubborn, self-centered, lazy, inflexible.

Meliza Manalo 49:11

See the weaknesses. I feel like don't... I don't think that's what you are. Like, I don't think you're arrogant or lazy.

Shannon 49:17

I feel like I can be lazy. But ...

Meliza Manalo 49:20

I think everybody can be lazy.

Shannon 49:22


Mia Russell 49:22


Shannon 49:23

This also has...

Mia Russell 49:24

Mine feels...

Shannon 49:24

Oh, go ahead.

Mia Russell 49:25

Sorry, go ahead. Oh...

Shannon 49:26

(Laughter) What do we do?

Mia Russell 49:30

Go ahead. Just go ahead.

Shannon 49:31

Okay. So, this also has a Leo likes and Leo dislikes. So just says likes, theater, taking holidays, being admired, expensive things, bright colors, fun with friends. Dislikes, being ignored, facing difficult reality, not being treated like a king or queen.

Meliza Manalo 49:53

See? That's not you. Like it's...

Mia Russell 49:55

Maybe it is like deep deep down. But you don't present yourself as that kind of a person.

Meliza Manalo 50:02

And you're these pinches of your personality.

Shannon 50:04

No, you okay? And I guess like I don't like being ignored, right? I don't like that. I like theater. I like watching theater. Like, Broadway. I like Broadway.

Meliza Manalo 50:14

Yeah. That's true.

Shannon 50:16

I don't, I wouldn't say I like expensive things. You know as like a characteristic trait or whatever. I don't know.

Meliza Manalo 50:22


Shannon 50:23

And bright colors? No.

Mia Russell 50:25


Shannon 50:26

I mean I like fun with friends but that's also kind of like a whatever thing.

Meliza Manalo 50:30

I mean, who doesn't?

Shannon 50:32

Yeah like, what is that?

Meliza Manalo 50:34

I want to be with my friends and just be drab and sad. No one says that. They say ironically.

Mia Russell 50:42

Well, it sounds kind of like a goth person, you know?

Shannon 50:45

And those are just the little blurbs. And then there's like... they write all this other stuff that I don't have time to read right now.

Mia Russell 50:52

Yeah, I think I'm on the same website.

Shannon 50:54

Website? Okay.

Mia Russell 50:55

Yeah. And my strengths are reliable, patient, practical, devoted, responsible, stable. Weaknesses are stubborn, possessive, uncompromising. Which I don't think I'm uncompromising.

Shannon 51:06

I don't think so. either.

Mia Russell 51:07

I think I'm stubborn and possessive though.

Shannon 51:09

I could see you as stubborn.

Mia Russell 51:11


Shannon 51:12

I don't know. I don't know about possessive. But yeah, I don't think you're uncompromising.

Mia Russell 51:16

And then the likes are gardening, cooking music, romance, high quality clothes, working with hands.

Shannon 51:22

I can see some of those.

Mia Russell 51:25

Yeah. Dislikes, sudden changes, complications, insecurity of any kind synthetic fabrics. What?

Meliza Manalo 51:31

Synthetic fabric?

Shannon 51:31

These are so random. Like, I feel like they're so weird.

Mia Russell 51:34


Meliza Manalo 51:34

What does that mean? Synthetic fabrics?

Shannon 51:37

Like you like real things? I don't know.

Mia Russell 51:38

I guess. Oops. I didn't type...

Shannon 51:41

And who knows. Like, what this website... You know?

Meliza Manalo 51:48

It's so specific, you know? Like the other stuff or just general like kind of anyone can resonate with it. But then like synthetic fabrics, specifically? You don't like those.

Mia Russell 51:58

Yeah, I mean...

Shannon 52:01

And then on top I have... Sorry, I'm just reading all these things. My greatest overall compatibility is Aquarius and Gemini. And my lucky numbers are 1, 3, 10 and 19. And I've always liked the number 3.

Meliza Manalo 52:12

1, 3, 10 and 19.

Shannon 52:17

Yeah, I always liked. And I was born on the 10th. So, there's that.

Meliza Manalo 52:20

Mm hmm. One of your most amazing friends in the world is born on the 19th.

Shannon 52:25

Who's that? (Laughter) Hey, Mia. Whose birthday?

Mia Russell 52:31

No! (Laughter)

Shannon 52:32

Whose birthday falls on the 19th?

Mia Russell 52:35

Yeah. I don't know anyone with that.

Meliza Manalo 52:36

Not Mia's.

Shannon 52:37

Actually, I have another friend whose birthday is on the 19th of August, though. But I have another...

Meliza Manalo 52:41

Oh, really? We're 19th babies.

Shannon 52:43

Yeah. Awww. That's cute.

Meliza Manalo 52:46

That's cool.

Shannon 52:47

Meliza, go pull up this website. You can read us yours too.

Meliza Manalo 52:50


Shannon 52:51

Yeah. Okay, so my colors are gold, yellow and orange.

Mia Russell 52:55


Shannon 52:57

Which I can say.

Meliza Manalo 52:57

Oh. I mean, yeah.

Mia Russell 52:58

Ohh. Mine are green and pink. Which I feel like do not go together.

Shannon 53:02

Oh, green and pink go together.

Meliza Manalo 53:03

Green and pink?

Shannon 53:04

Have you ever seen a 'Wicked'? (Laughter) That's my love for theater coming out. (Laughter)

Mia Russell 53:13

And my greatest overall compatibilities with Scorpio or cancer. Which... my ex was a Scorpio, and my mom is a cancer.

Shannon 53:24

Woah. I don't even know like Gemini; I know is in May. My mom's a Gemini. But I don't know what the range is. And off the top of my head, I don't know what Aquarius is. Like where that is? Let me click on it right now. Haha.

Mia Russell 53:39

My lucky numbers are 2, 6, 9, 12 and 24. Which is funny because they're all like kind of related to each other.

Meliza Manalo 53:46


Mia Russell 53:48

Except for two. They're multiples of three.

Shannon 53:50


Meliza Manalo 53:51

Oh, Okay. I think I found it. I was like, where is this? So, my dad is December 22nd. And I'm the 19th. And then my mom and my brother in the middle. So, we're all Capricorn.

Shannon 54:05


Mia Russell 54:05