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S1E21 - MBTI & Hogwarts w/ Mia Russell and Shannon Ebler (Part 1)

Episode Description:

I am joined in this episode by my two amazing friends, Mia and Shannon. In this episode, we’re going to reveal our Myers Briggs personality types and which Hogwarts house we got placed into.

If you want to see which house you belong to, here is the link:

Here is the article I mention that sorted people into the different houses based on their Myers Briggs personality type:

We also go off on quite a few tangents, but if you want to take the enneagram test, here is one that was suggested to me:


Some parts of the transcript may be edited for better readability, but the content remains the same. Mostly removed duplicate words, vocal filler words, and added/removed some words for clarification.


Hey, everyone! This is Meliza, and I'm the Talkative Introvert.

I got another guest episode for you guys. So, I'll keep this intro pretty short. Just want to thank you all for listening and coming back week after week to listen to my new episodes. As of the recording of this episode, I have officially reached 800 downloads, which I still can't believe. I'm still shocked that people are coming back and continuing to listen to my podcast. So, thanks so much, and I appreciate all the downloads. If you want to help support the show, please rate, and review me on Apple Podcasts. If you leave a review, I'll make sure to feature it in a future episode. Thanks. And let's get into that episode.

I am joined in this episode by my two amazing friends Mia and Shannon. They've been on the podcast before. Go check out those episodes. Mia, you still hold the place for the most listens. Like your introvert dating episode. Yeah. So, it's like even compared to like all my other episodes and my older episodes, you're still... well you're number two. Because number one is the intro, which I mean yes, just yeah.

Mia Russell 01:03

Wohoo! Wohooo! Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 01:16

That's a given. Yeah, so go check out Mia's episode and then Shannon has one as well. But this is our first episode that we're doing, like three of us together.

Mia Russell 01:30

How exciting.

Shannon 01:30

Yayy! So exciting. It's been a long time coming.

Meliza Manalo 01:34

Yeah. And I'm excited to do more. But for this episode, anyways, we're going to talk about our Myers-Briggs personality. So, they know mine, but I don't know theirs. So, we'll be hearing it for the first time. And then we all took a test to sort ourselves into the four Hogwarts houses. I will link that in the show notes in case you guys want to do the quiz yourself. But we're gonna guess based on our Myers-Briggs personality, 'Which house we're going to be in'. So, yeah. And it's perfect we're doing this Harry Potter thing. Because I don't know why, but Harry Potter just makes me think of winter and fall.

Mia Russell 02:19

Yeah, me too.

Shannon 02:20

No, I feel that.

Mia Russell 02:21

It's like cozy.

Meliza Manalo 02:22

Yeah, exactly. So, you guys, would you consider you guys like really big Harry Potter fans? Like did you guys read all the books and watched all the movies?

Mia Russell 02:34

Yes, definitely. All of them multiple times.

Shannon 02:39

Yes, but I think there are definitely people who are bigger Harry Potter fans than me.

Mia Russell 02:44


Shannon 02:44

Like I've read all the books and I've seen the movies. And I love Harry Potter. But I wouldn't say like I'm a super fan if that makes sense.

Mia Russell 02:52


Shannon 02:52

But I'm definitely a fan.

Mia Russell 02:55

Yeah, like I have Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans in my room and Diagon Alley sign but I'm not committing my whole room to Harry Potter either.

Meliza Manalo 03:05

Yeah, so I stopped at... where did I stop at? What's the one after 'Goblet of fire'?

Mia Russell 03:15

'Order of the Phoenix.'

Meliza Manalo 03:16

Yeah, I think that's all I stopped at. (Laughter)

Shannon 03:19

That was like my favorite too. I don't know what it is. But I love book five.

Mia Russell 03:22

Book three is my favorite.

Shannon 03:25

Well, book three is probably my second. And I know a lot of people love book three. Yeah, that's a popular one. But for me, it's five.

Meliza Manalo 03:33

How many books are there?

Shannon 03:35


Meliza Manalo 03:36

There's seven?

Shannon 03:37


Mia Russell 03:37


Meliza Manalo 03:38

Okay. So, I didn't have much to go. Like I could have finished. (Laughter)

Mia Russell 03:47

Well, there's still time.

Shannon 03:49

Yeah, you still can.

Meliza Manalo 03:50

Yeah, I know. I can. I should.

Shannon 03:53

But will you?

Meliza Manalo 03:54

I just... No, probably not. (Laughter) I might watch the movies, but I might not read it. Which is really bad.

Mia Russell 04:01

The movies aren't nearly as good though.

Meliza Manalo 04:02

I know.

Shannon 04:02

I was gonna say you get so much more information in the books.

Meliza Manalo 04:06

So, I remember when that movie, the first movie came out. And I was thinking like, that's not what is said in the book. Like, is this what it feels like to watch a book into a movie? I still I mean, I like it and whatever. Someday I will finish watching all of it. And then maybe I'll read the rest of it. (Laughter)

Shannon 04:30

You're so convincing. (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 04:34

Really takes a lot of time, you guys.

Shannon 04:36

It does. No, I feel you.

Meliza Manalo 04:37

I really have time for this podcast. (Laughter) And I committed to publishing every Monday.

Shannon 04:46

Oh my god. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 04:47

But that's okay. I'm gonna take a break eventually. I put in breaks in there for winter and summer breaks and holiday breaks. So, it's all good.

Shannon 04:58

So, like a school schedule?

Meliza Manalo 05:00

Kinda. Yeah. I did like... I'm gonna do seasons. That way I'm not burnt out and then, you know, it gives me time to think of topics. Because I think that's the hardest part is thinking of topics to talk about. Yeah. But anyways.

Shannon 05:14

I think you've done well so far.

Meliza Manalo 05:16

Yeah. Thanks.

Shannon 05:17


Meliza Manalo 05:19

I try. I try.

Mia Russell 05:22

And you succeed.

Meliza Manalo 05:24

Thank you. Thanks, Mia. Oh, Geez. All right. So on to our Myers-Briggs personality. So, I'm sure you guys already know. I'm an INTJ. What am I? INTJ-A. I always get the T and A mixed up.

Shannon 05:42

Oh, the last one?

Meliza Manalo 05:43

Yeah, cuz I feel like I want to be a T. I like saying INTG... INTJ-T. But I am an INTJ. I am no, I'm an INTJ-A

Shannon 05:55


Meliza Manalo 05:56

I'm assertive, not turbulent. (Laughter)

Mia Russell 05:59

Nice. So, what are your strengths?

Meliza Manalo 06:06

Okay, let me check the website.

Shannon 06:08

I was gonna say we should do like the percentages, too. Because I know you posted about that.

Meliza Manalo 06:13

Oh, percentages. Do you guys have your percentages?

Mia Russell 06:16

Yeah, I emailed it to myself.

Shannon 06:18

Same here.

Meliza Manalo 06:18

Okay. I need to open that email then.

Shannon 06:21

Okay, because I know you posted about it in one of your Instagrams. So that's why we should do just because...

Meliza Manalo 06:27

I did. Oh, duh... I have my phone. Okay, so we took the 16 personalities quiz just because it's free. And the actual MBTI. So, the Myers-Briggs test indicator assessment, I think it's called? Actually, cost money, and it's more comprehensive. But I don't have money for that. So, just doing the 16 personalities which I think is good enough.

Shannon 06:53

Maybe one day.

Meliza Manalo 06:54

Yeah. Maybe if I actually get money for this podcast.

Shannon 06:59

I was just on the process right now.

Meliza Manalo 06:59

I don't know. But anyways. So, we're gonna read out like our strengths and weaknesses based off of the 16 personalities website. So, for the INTJ personality, my strengths are that I'm rational, informed, independent, determined, curious and versatile. Whereas my weaknesses, I'm arrogant. Jesus. Dismissive of emotions, overly critical, combat... combative, romantically clueless. Oh, good thing I'm not single.

Shannon 07:04

Sorry. I'm sorry. (Laughter) Romantically clueless. That ummm...

Mia Russell 07:47

That burns.

Meliza Manalo 07:50

That's true though. Like, I can't tell.

Shannon 07:52

What does it say? Like, what does that blurb say? Do you have that?

Meliza Manalo 07:55

Okay. So, architect's relentless rationality can lead them to be frustrated by romance, especially in the early stages of a relationship. They may struggle to understand what's going on, and how to behave. And if their relationships fall apart, for reasons they don't understand, they can become cynical about matters of the heart, even questioning the importance of love and connection.

Shannon 08:18

Awww. I totally can kind of relate to that, though?

Mia Russell 08:20

Wow. Yeah. Good thing, you aren't single. Because that would be rough.

Meliza Manalo 08:22

Yeah. I know. I got pretty lucky there.

Mia Russell 08:26


Meliza Manalo 08:26

Cuz I do. I mean, I do struggle with emotions, you know? Like Brandon and I have been in arguments before because I don't understand why he feels a certain way. And that's like... And it's, you know, gotten us into trouble. But good thing he stuck around.

Shannon 08:44

Awww. That's so cute.

Meliza Manalo 08:46

He's still here. You know, I haven't scared him away. All right.

Mia Russell 08:53

So, how accurate do you think that is, besides the romantically one?

Meliza Manalo 08:59

So, I did talk about this with my sister-in-law on a different episode. But I definitely... like I stayed up all night reading every aspect, like every article. So, it was like the different articles, right? And I read every single one and I pretty much resonate almost exactly with an INTJ. It's like eerie how accurate it is. It kind of freaks me out a little bit. Like, how did someone... How did someone think about that? You know?

Mia Russell 09:33

Yeah, it was able to classify different people into 16 personalities and be so accurate.

Meliza Manalo 09:40

Yeah, but so like... I mean, just talking about it right now, it's just so mind boggling. Like, I want to know everybody's personality type.

Mia Russell 09:50

Yeah, I put mine in my dating profile.

Meliza Manalo 09:53

Oh, you did?

Mia Russell 09:54

Yeah, I definitely did.

Meliza Manalo 09:57

Oh, isn't there that one dating app? The one... I think I showed it to you. Or it's like, based on your Myers-Briggs personality.

Mia Russell 10:06

Oh, I don't remember that.

Meliza Manalo 10:07

Okay, I need to send it. I'll resend it then. Shannon, do you want me to send it to you?

Shannon 10:12

Oh, yes. What was it? Sorry. Send it to me. But what is it?

Meliza Manalo 10:16

That's a dating app based on your Myers-Briggs personality type.

Shannon 10:21

Oh, okay. I mean, sure.

Meliza Manalo 10:22

Yeah. (Laughter) Cuz it's kind of interesting. Like, I don't know.

Mia Russell 10:29

Yeah, I'm gonna try that.

Meliza Manalo 10:30

Yeah, I wish there was like a friend app. Because obviously I don't need to date.

Mia Russell 10:35


Meliza Manalo 10:36

It'd be cool if there's a friend app for that. Yeah, I think it's very accurate. Like, it explains a lot of things. And it actually clarifies a lot of things about me and who I am. Because for the longest time, I did think maybe there's something wrong. Like certain aspects of me, especially the emotional part. But I guess I'm not alone. And it's a very small percentage of people who are INTJs is but, you know, I'm still not alone. Like there's other people like me, which is kind of nice to hear that, you know?

Mia Russell 11:07


Meliza Manalo 11:08

All right. Who wants to go next?

Mia Russell 11:11


Shannon 11:13

Okay. (Laughter) I'll go. I'll do it, I guess. Okay, so, I got ISFP-A.

Meliza Manalo 11:27

ISFP-A? Wow.

Shannon 11:29

Yeah. Which is adventure personality.

Mia Russell 11:32


Meliza Manalo 11:33


Shannon 11:35

So, I... I don't know. I'm not convinced. Like, I don't know. Because, I took this whenever you first posted it on Instagram.

Meliza Manalo 11:46

Mm hmm.

Shannon 11:46

And I got this one. And I was like, uh, I don't know. So, I took it again. And I got something else. But then today, I took it again. And I got adventure again. But so, I...

Meliza Manalo 11:59

Okay. So, what's the...

Shannon 12:01

My strengths and weaknesses? What it thinks?

Meliza Manalo 12:04

Yeah, maybe. Maybe we can determine that here.

Shannon 12:06

Help me. Because maybe I'm just like not. And maybe the word adventure is also throwing me. Because I don't... wouldn't describe myself as adventurous. I don't know.

Meliza Manalo 12:19

I don't know. We did a whole episode.

Shannon 12:23

Maybe I'm just... I don't know.

Mia Russell 12:24

You traveled a lot.

Shannon 12:26


Meliza Manalo 12:26

Yeah. That's literally what our episode was about was you traveling. And you moving out of state. And like...

Mia Russell 12:32


Shannon 12:32

Okay. So, maybe I'm just thinking about it differently. Oh, I think actually...

Mia Russell 12:37

Or like to be Frodo Baggins, or something.

Shannon 12:39

Right. Well, I think one of the things that is sticking out to me and I think this is probably the first time around when I took it that I was like, huh, no, was the introduction. And it's saying like... umm... oh, here it is. "Adventurers live to find ways to push their passions. Riskier behaviors like gambling in extreme sports are common with this personality type then with others." And I'm like, ummm no. Like, you know, that's not me. So, maybe that's one thing I do remember that, you know, stuck out from the first time around. So, maybe I'm just have this different perception going on. But let's go through the strengths and weaknesses. And we can take this.

Meliza Manalo 13:18


Shannon 13:19

Okay. So, strengths, charming, sensitive to others, imaginative, passionate, curious, and artistic. And weaknesses, fiercely independent, unpredictable, easily stressed, overly competitive, and fluctuating self-esteem.

Meliza Manalo 13:44

So, what do you not agree with?

Shannon 13:46

I don't... And like, for some of these, I need to like... I don't know, I didn't think about it more. But I don't know if I'm unpredictable. And I wouldn't say I'm really competitive. Like, I don't think those describe me.

Mia Russell 14:02

Like not even with board games?

Shannon 14:05

I mean, I feel like I'm competitive. But I don't know. Or I can be. I feel like I can be competitive.

Mia Russell 14:11


Shannon 14:13

Okay, so for the competitive thing, it says, "Adventurers can escalate small things into intense competitions, turning down long-term success in their search for glory in the moment, and are unhappy when they lose."

Mia Russell 14:27


Shannon 14:28

Yeah, right?

Meliza Manalo 14:28

I don't see that.

Mia Russell 14:29


Shannon 14:30

That's right. It sounds too intense. Like, that's too intense for how I am.

Meliza Manalo 14:37

Maybe you have to do the third one.

Mia Russell 14:38

Maybe you're like a... yeah. Or maybe you're just like a mild version of this.

Shannon 14:44

Of this. Yeah. Because that's what. So, it was like reading some of these blurbs, it's like maybe I can see some. But I'm not you know, like, oh, yeah, that definitely describes me.

Mia Russell 14:54


Meliza Manalo 14:55


Shannon 14:55

If that makes sense. So, it's like and I don't know. Honestly, when I was taking it again today, I kind of want to take it with you guys. Or sit and like go through the questions. Just because I feel like talking about what they really mean might help me and my answers.

Mia Russell 15:12


Meliza Manalo 15:13


Shannon 15:14

So... but that's for another time.

Meliza Manalo 15:18

Yeah, because I did a second time. And for each... because the first time I like... you know, it was 2am and I wasn't super coherent. But the second time I did it, I thought of scenarios for each question. So, I thought okay, when has something like that happened to me? And then how did I react to it? And then that's how I based my answers.

Mia Russell 15:42


Shannon 15:42


Meliza Manalo 15:43

Cuz like, yeah.

Shannon 15:44

See, I try. I don't know, but I feel like I need more examples, even if they're not personal examples for me, but just to help me wrap my head around some of these.

Meliza Manalo 15:56

Yeah. How would you react?

Shannon 15:56

I could come up with one for myself. But...

Mia Russell 16:00


Meliza Manalo 16:01

Yeah, cuz maybe you're... because you know how sometimes people will, when they take a quiz, they'll take it, but they'll answer in the way they want to be that way rather than how actually they are.

Shannon 16:13


Meliza Manalo 16:14

Maybe something like that.

Shannon 16:16

And I also feel like the scale on this because when, whenever.... So, the first or the second time, technically second time I took it, I did get something else. So, I feel like also, a big chunk of it is, you know, the degree. Because there's three agrees. Like, I don't know, super agree, medium agree and middle. And then the same for disagree. So, I feel like where you pick is affecting this a lot.

Meliza Manalo 16:45

Yeah, I think so too.

Mia Russell 16:47


Shannon 16:47

Let me try to see if I have the results for the second one. Because it wouldn't... did I take screenshots maybe? Because it wouldn't let me send those results to myself. That's one thing with this website. It's like once you take it, you can't... I don't know. Like retaking it is weird.

Meliza Manalo 17:10

Yeah. I don't think you can retake it.

Shannon 17:13


Meliza Manalo 17:13

The second time, I retook it. I just used a different email. I used my podcast email.

Shannon 17:20

Right. And well, like this, when I first did that I was on my phone. And today, I took it on my laptop. So, it was a different device. So, I think that was part of it. But obviously, it remembered my email. So, to email the results, I did a different one.

Meliza Manalo 17:35

Oh, yeah. I never revealed my percentages.

Mia Russell 17:38

Yeah, what are your percentages?

Shannon 17:39

Yeah, you can do that real quick.

Meliza Manalo 17:41

Okay, so for me... so, I got the architect. And so, for introverted, I was 93%. Which yeah, okay.

Mia Russell 17:51

Makes sense?

Meliza Manalo 17:54

It's funny, because in my intro, I jokingly said like, "I'm probably like a 90%-10%. But I didn't think that was actually true until I took this test. And I was like, oh, it wasn't a joke.

Mia Russell 18:07


Meliza Manalo 18:08

Intuitive 63%. Thinking 76%. Judging 69% and assertive 67%. And then my role of the analyst. Which is funny because that is my actual role in real life. I'm a PMO analyst. So, that was pretty accurate. Like this thing is really accurate. That sounds surprised, like Shannon you didn't get one that's like super accurate.

Shannon 18:36

Right? And then I took it, I've taken it twice or three times. But twice I've gotten the same thing. So, I don't know. And it's like, I don't think like right, maybe I did it wrong. But it's like, I don't think all of these are wrong. Or I think some of them. But there's definitely some that it's like, no, I don't think that is totally me.

Meliza Manalo 18:59

Are your percentage... maybe you're teetering? Like, are your percentages just close to the middle? Like in the 50s.

Shannon 19:06

Some of them are. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 19:08


Shannon 19:09

I'll go through what it gave me percent wise.

Meliza Manalo 19:12


Shannon 19:12

So, introverted 86%. Observant 79%. Feeling 58%. Perspective pros... prospecting... prospecting? God. Okay. 56% and assertive 65%. So those last three...

Meliza Manalo 19:34

Yeah, that kind of is in the middle.

Shannon 19:36

It's like they could have... it was close.

Meliza Manalo 19:38

Yeah. So, there is a good chance to like if one of them like switches or something that changes your personality a bit, you know?

Shannon 19:47


Meliza Manalo 19:48

So, interesting. We'll have to take it again then.

Shannon 19:51

Here., I did find the screenshots I took of the second time when I got the different result.

Meliza Manalo 19:57

Mm hmm.

Shannon 19:57

And I just have what it was in the percentages.

Meliza Manalo 20:01

So, what is your first one?

Shannon 20:03

The first one was adventure. And it's ISFP-A.

Meliza Manalo 20:09

And what's your second one?

Shannon 20:11

The second one I got was defender and it is ISFJ-A. So, that one did flip flop.

Meliza Manalo 20:20

So, only your J and you P flipped.

Shannon 20:23

And so, for the percentages some of them are close because introverted was 88% as compared to the 86% from adventure. Okay, observant 81%, whereas there it was 79%. feeling 60%. So close again. And prospecting... no judging, sorry. Neither my side. Okay, so judging this time. And that was 57%. So, somewhere in my whatever that this says, tactics, I'm super close.

Meliza Manalo 20:53

So, the other one is ISFJ. Right?

Shannon 20:56


Meliza Manalo 20:56

That was your second one.

Shannon 20:58


Meliza Manalo 20:58

So, this one, the strengths are supportive, reliable, and patient, imaginative, and observant, enthusiastic, loyal, and hardworking, good practical skills. And then your weaknesses are humble and shy, take things too personally, repress their feelings, overload themselves, reluctant to change into altruistic.

Mia Russell 21:23

That sounds more like Shannon.

Shannon 21:24

I was gonna say, just hearing those that sounds more like me. So, whatever it was, though, I'm so close on the what? P and J that. And that totally shifts everything, right?

Mia Russell 21:37


Shannon 21:37

But yeah, just hearing those characteristics. I definitely think I'm more of the ISFJ.

Mia Russell 21:42

So, I'll go with that one. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 21:45

Yeah, I think that too. Yeah. Cuz like, I'm kind of reading the introduction. I was like, yeah, that sounds like Shannon.

Shannon 21:50

Okay, so let's scrap this whole other thing. (Laughter) I am a defender. Defend the people. And myself. (Laughter) Okay, good thing I took this screenshot way back when and I did take it twice.

Meliza Manalo 21:59

There you go. I saw the problem. That's funny. Okay.

Shannon 22:10

That is funny.

Meliza Manalo 22:11

Man. Just that one letter though. That like changes everything. All right. Okay, Mia it's your turn.

Shannon 22:19

It's finally your turn.

Meliza Manalo 22:20

I know.

Mia Russell 22:20

Okay. So, I am an INFP-T.

Meliza Manalo 22:25


Shannon 22:28

Oh, you're turbulent.

Mia Russell 22:30


Shannon 22:31

I don't know what that means. Like, I don't know the difference between the A and the T.

Mia Russell 22:34

I think it means that I'm not assertive. Which is me to a T. Most of this actually is I would say.

Shannon 22:44


Mia Russell 22:44

So, I'm the mediator. My strengths are thoughtful, generous, open-minded, creative, passionate, loyal to my values. And my weaknesses are overly idealistic, self-critical, impractical, emotionally driven, conflict diverse, difficult to get to know.

Shannon 23:02

I feel like that sounds like you.

Meliza Manalo 23:03

Yeah, I was like, yes, that's Mia.

Mia Russell 23:05

Yeah. I really feel like this hit the nail on the head, though.

Meliza Manalo 23:12


Shannon 23:12


Mia Russell 23:13

And my percentages introverted was only 76%. Lower than both of yours.

Shannon 23:19

Yeah, you're the least introverted.

Meliza Manalo 23:22

Yeah. That's true.

Mia Russell 23:22

Which is weird.

Meliza Manalo 23:23

I think that's true, though.

Mia Russell 23:25

Okay. And then I got 74% for intuitive, 86% for feeling, 54% for prospecting and 85% for turbulent. My role is diplomat, and my strategy is constant improvement. So, I feel like that was pretty accurate.

Meliza Manalo 23:42

Yeah, it sounds pretty accurate. And like the whole the... what is it? 77% or whatever for your introvert?

Mia Russell 23:49


Meliza Manalo 23:50

76%. Yeah, I agree with that. Because you're the one that always wants to go out. And you're the one that always invites us to go out. And you're like... Yeah.

Mia Russell 24:00

That's true.

Shannon 24:01

Maybe that is true. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 24:02

And you always... Like, it seems like you have a lot of friends. I feel like every time we go out; I'm meeting someone new.

Mia Russell 24:11

Oh, okay. (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 24:13

And you were the party house. Like, what do you mean? (Laughter) You were the party house in high school, of course, who was less introverted than we are.

Mia Russell 24:30


Shannon 24:30

Yeah, and in college, too. Because then Meliza and I would show up to your parties together.

Mia Russell 24:36


Meliza Manalo 24:36

Yeah, exactly. Because we're like, "I don't want to go unless you go. I don't know anyone."

Mia Russell 24:47

Yeah, so I feel like the whole thing was pretty accurate. And just reading the introduction part, felt like me. And the strengths and weaknesses are pretty spot on.

Meliza Manalo 24:59

Isn't that eerie? It's so weird.

Mia Russell 25:02


Meliza Manalo 25:03

Oh my god, like I was... I'm still blown. Oh my God. It was just so fascinating. Like, how did these? It's like just two people, right? I'm sure it's a group of people, but they're the two that really... I don't know, figure it out or whatever. And it's just insane how are there... Are there really only 16 personalities? I guess there's ANT also.

Mia Russell 25:28


Shannon 25:29

I don't know what that means. But this is like, you know, one theory, right?

Meliza Manalo 25:33


Shannon 25:35

This is one... whoever Myer-Briggs is.

Meliza Manalo 25:38


Mia Russell 25:39

Yeah. And you could also change over time too.

Shannon 25:42

Uh huh.

Meliza Manalo 25:42

Yeah. That's true.

Mia Russell 25:42

And like, Shannon, you could be borderline one than the other.

Meliza Manalo 25:46


Shannon 25:46

Uh huh. And I bet it's the degree to which I agreed or disagreed is what was like made the scale tip.

Meliza Manalo 25:54

When we said too.

Mia Russell 25:55


Shannon 25:55

So, if I had agreed a little more or whatever on a couple questions, I bet it would have been the other way.

Meliza Manalo 26:02

Yeah, these personality stuff, it's like, so interesting because I want to do an enneagram. Have you guys heard of that?

Shannon 26:09

I have. I don't...

Mia Russell 26:10


Shannon 26:12

Get it? Or like, I don't know what it is.

Meliza Manalo 26:13

Yeah, I don't get it either. I just heard it on a separate podcast.

Shannon 26:17

Yeah, I've seen those.

Meliza Manalo 26:18

Yeah. I saw some people putting it on their dating profiles, too.

Mia Russell 26:22


Shannon 26:23

Because my friend knows hers. Because they're numbers, right?

Meliza Manalo 26:29

Yeah. It has something with numbers. And a chart.

Shannon 26:31

That's all I know. Like, I think my... oh, I don't know. I feel like... I want to say she's a six. But I don't know what that means. And I can't remember exactly. But she posts about it. Like she identifies with that. But so, it's like, I'd like to look into that. See what that's about.

Meliza Manalo 26:46

Yeah, there's like, um... my therapist sent me a link. Because I told her about my Myers-Briggs. And I guess it's like, 12 bucks. So, I was like, oh that's not too bad.

Mia Russell 26:57


Meliza Manalo 26:58

I can probably spare 12 bucks to enneagram.

Shannon 26:59


Meliza Manalo 27:01

Yeah, you know? So, I might do it later on. And like, even your zodiac. I'm supposed to do an episode on zodiacs, too. Because I know nothing about zodiacs. But apparently there's some science behind it. Like it's not just stars or whatever. But it has to do with exactly where you were born like your...

Mia Russell 27:23


Meliza Manalo 27:24

What's it called?

Shannon 27:25

I don't know.

Meliza Manalo 27:27

Your geographical...

Mia Russell 27:27

Your birth chart?

Meliza Manalo 27:28

Yeah, like your location, like the location of the moon and the sun and the planets. And...

Shannon 27:35

I wish I understood all that.

Mia Russell 27:37

I have two books on those. Birthday stars and numbers and the hidden meaning of your name or whatever, something like that. Those are both really good books about names and your birth status. You know, like zodiac signs. It goes down to the very day and tells you what your special numbers are all sorts of stuff like that.

Meliza Manalo 28:06


Shannon 28:06

Yeah. Well, that's what my same friend who has the... oh, I already forgot what it was. An anagram? An...

Meliza Manalo 28:12


Shannon 28:13

Enneagram? But back earlier on in quarantine, when everyone you know, was posting all of the... I don't know. Just all the things on their stories like this or that and all those things. But she had also posted the Zodiac stuff. Because there's, you know, your main one.

Meliza Manalo 28:37

Mm hmm.

Shannon 28:38

But then there's also like, what are they? like...

Meliza Manalo 28:41

There's your moon...

Shannon 28:42

Sun, moon and rising? These are the three?

Meliza Manalo 28:44

Yeah, something like that.

Shannon 28:45

So, like, I have no idea about these other two, right? And I feel... I took something. It seems like I took all these quizzes a bunch of times, right? But, um, because I'm a Leo. But I definitely don't identify as a stereotypical Leo.

Meliza Manalo 29:03

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Shannon 29:04

So, I... Yeah, right? Um, so I think I want to, you know, I'd like to look into more of my other two and how would they all interact?

Meliza Manalo 29:13

Mm hmm.

Shannon 29:15

To see if that... if those do describe me more, or I relate to those more?

Meliza Manalo 29:20

Yeah, I just want to see how accurate is you know? So, there's some proof to it.

Shannon 29:24

Yeah, same. That's what I love. I love all the personality things and just seeing like, oh, yeah, I agree. Or nah.

Meliza Manalo 29:32

Exactly. Cuz like, uh? That's wrong. That's probably, you know, wrong. Not real. Fake.

Shannon 29:40

Fake. (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 29:45

Okay, so now that we know our Myers-Briggs personalities, so there's the four Hogwarts house. And that's what we're gonna try to figure out. Or we're gonna guess each other's, right? So, before we do that, we are going to do like a summary of each one. So, if you don't know Harry Potter, I mean how do you not? I don't know if you like wanna listen to this episode. But basically, there's the four houses. There's Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw and Slytherin. And so, Gryffindor based on this, it's called like allocation. I don't know if this is a Harry Potter website or whatever this is. But so, Gryffindor. So, the traits and strengths of Gryffindor is that they're courageous, daring, chivalry or chivalrous, strong moral compass or moral, strong moral compass. And then their weakness is hot headedness, recklessness, arrogance, yeah, and arrogance. So that's Gryffindor. Hufflepuff, you've got loyalty, dedication, honesty, and humbleness. And their weakness is they're naive, low self-esteem, lack of ambition. Then Ravenclaw. Strength is intelligence, curiosity, creativity, individuality. Their weakness is disconnection from the outside world, arrogance, and isolation. The last is Slytherin. And their strength is ambition, cunning, resourcefulness, determination. Then their weakness is... what the hell is that? match-a-vallian tendencies?

Mia Russell 31:32


Meliza Manalo 31:33

Machiavellian? What's that?

Shannon 31:35

Machiavelli? I can't describe any more than that. Because I'd have to Google it. But it's a thing.

Meliza Manalo 31:41

So, it says, 'The end justifies the means'.

Shannon 31:44

Yeah, I can't... I mean, it's a philosophy.

Mia Russell 31:46

it means that you're willing to do whatever to get it done.

Shannon 31:49

Okay, there you go.

Meliza Manalo 31:50

Oh, okay.

Shannon 31:51

Like I took a philosophy class once upon a time, but...

Meliza Manalo 31:55

Okay. I was like, I feel like I learned about this in college. But...

Shannon 31:59

You're right. I took a political theory class, and this was talked about.

Meliza Manalo 32:06

So that, power hungry and discrimination. Discrimination. Discrimination like what? Like their racist? Oh, they attack those wizards who aren't pure blood. And others who may perceive as being weak, even if they are pure blood, okay. So, they're wizardist.

Shannon 32:28

Yeah. (Laughter)

Mia Russell 32:29


Meliza Manalo 32:35

You know, like, Hermione. She's simple. You guys know already. Okay. So, those are the four houses and so, do you guys have a guess for one of us? How do you go on this?

Mia Russell 32:47

Ah, well, because all of my friends are Hufflepuff, I think y'all are Hufflepuff.

Meliza Manalo 32:53

You think we're Hufflepuff?

Mia Russell 32:55


Shannon 32:56

Both of us?

Mia Russell 32:57

Yeah. I mean, definitely Shannon, maybe Meliza.

Meliza Manalo 33:03


Mia Russell 33:03

See, it's not a bad thing. I just think you guys are like really good friends and loyal and you know, awesome friends.

Meliza Manalo 33:11

So, all that other houses you can be good friends with? (Laughter)

Shannon 33:18

See my... Okay, see, I would say Meliza is a Ravenclaw and Mia, I would say you're Gryffindor? And maybe Ravenclaw would be my second one for you.

Mia Russell 33:34

Okay, cool.

Meliza Manalo 33:35

Yeah, so I was thinking the exact same thing. Mia is either Gryffindor or Ravenclaw. Like you could be kind of in the middle. Or maybe Gryffindor and Hufflepuff. And I think Shannon you're... I think you're Hufflepuff. You're Shannon. You're bubbly little sunshine.

Shannon 33:54

Okay. Should we reveal? Cuz I'm definitely a Hufflepuff. (Laughter)

Mia Russell 34:01

I knew it.

Shannon 34:02


Mia Russell 34:05

And I am definitely a Gryffindor.

Meliza Manalo 34:07


Shannon 34:09

Okay, Meliza, so it's really up to you. What did you get?

Meliza Manalo 34:12

I'm a Ravenclaw.

Mia Russell 34:15

Dang it. Ahh.

Shannon 34:20


Meliza Manalo 34:20

Shannon, wohoo!

Mia Russell 34:23

That makes sense though.

Shannon 34:24

It does.

Meliza Manalo 34:25

Yeah. I love I've always loved Ravenclaw. Like I thought they were so like...ummm because no one... I don't know I feel like no one cares about the Ravenclaw.

Mia Russell 34:37

I always like wanted to be Ravenclaw. But I was also like, Gryffindor is the best.

Shannon 34:43


Meliza Manalo 34:43

Okay, Harry.

Mia Russell 34:43

Well, I feel like it's a definite like everyone is like, "I'm in Gryffindor."

Shannon 34:47

Did you just say, "Okay, Harry?"

Meliza Manalo 34:49

Yeah. (Laughter) Cuz of course, people like Gryffindor because of Harry, you know, the main character.

Shannon 34:58

Well, I mean, it was the protagonist house, right? Like everyone wanted to be in Gryffindor. I always knew I was a Hufflepuff, you know, like I was never like, yeah, I'm a Gryffindor. I am not a Gryffindor.

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