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S1E16 - Personalities & Videogames w/ Patrick DeGuzman

Episode Description:

In this episode, I am joined by my cousin-in-law, Patrick DeGuzman. We both very much enjoy playing video games, but our game choices may differ depending on our personalities. I sent Patrick an article that states that introverts and extroverts play the same amount of video games, but what differs is the choice of video game. We discuss whether we agree with that statement or not. At the end, Patrick delights us with an odd drunk story, so stick around to hear all about it. Check out his Instagram page: Let him know I sent you!


Some parts of the transcript may be edited for better readability, but the content remains the same. Mostly removed duplicate words, vocal filler words, and added/removed some words for clarification.


Hey, everyone! This is Meliza, and I'm the Talkative Introvert. First of all, I hope everyone is doing okay out there. And it's like, I mean, it's been rough this whole year. But if you're like me and you live in California, we got the fires going on. It looks like they're getting contained. So that's great. And I know, I heard about the Hurricanes too. So, I really hope just everyone's Okay, everyone's doing okay. I know, there's still a lot going on. And not a lot has subsided yet, unfortunately. But I hope you are taking the time to take a break in, take a mental break away from social media, and the news and all that. And maybe even listen to one of my podcasts because I don't really, I try to stay away from all that stuff. Because it's a little break from the real world just for a moment. So, for today, we are, I am joined, we are joined by another guest. I am loving these guest episodes. I will do a solo one eventually. But a lot of people specifically in my family and my friends are super excited about this whole podcast thing. I was hiding it from them for a little while, like hiding it in general. However, people obviously find out. You know, it's not hard if you're public. And it's published on Spotify, and it's out there. So, people are finding out about it. And I'm excited that people are excited about it. It's kind of it's nice to share this platform with them. And I've been really enjoying these conversations. And it's been really fun, honestly. And recently my podcast reached 500 downloads. Which is, I mean, I don't know what the average is. But for me, that's pretty awesome. Because I started my first episode, I think aired in late May, the last week of May. And then so technically the season really started the first week of June, I believe. It's the first day of June actually. So, June, July, August. Three months, 500 downloads. That's pretty good in my opinion. But yeah, so let's get into the episode. I'm so excited for you guys to meet my cousin-in-law. He's a character and he's fun to talk to. So, let's get right to it. Today, I'm joined by Patrick DeGuzman and he is my cousin-in-law and also Katrina's brother. You may remember her from Episode 11 and 14. So go check those out. Patrick is also one of the very first people I met on my husband's side of the family. So, I've known him for 13 years now. So yeah, thanks so much for joining me, Patrick. Do you want to say a little something about yourself to listeners?

Patrick DeGuzman 02:52

Um, yeah. Thanks for having me. I've been listening since you first posted it and I look forward to hear from you more.

Meliza Manalo 03:21

Oh, thanks, Patrick. I didn't know you listened to all of it. Or did you listen to all of it?

Patrick DeGuzman 03:25

I did. I do. I listen to it while I'm at work.

Meliza Manalo 03:28

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks. I guess that makes sense. Cuz I do have a, so Buzzsprout, the one that hosts my podcast, it does tell you the locations of your listeners. And I do have a couple in Hawaii. So, I don't know if it's you and Joseph.

Patrick DeGuzman 03:48


Meliza Manalo 03:49

Just random. Random person. So, in today's episode, I did send Patrick a little article. It did talk about, so the article was about personalities and our video game choices. Specifically, with introverts and extroverts. So, there's a misconception that introverts are the ones that play the most video games. And extroverts don't but that's actually wrong. And that we actually play the same amount of video games. The difference is the type of video games we play. And so, I wanted to bring Patrick on here to see how true the article is. So, for Patrick, I asked you to take the Introvert, Extrovert and Ambivert quiz. So, do you mind sharing what you got?

Patrick DeGuzman 04:35

Yeah, of course. So, when I took it, I took it thinking that I was more introverted, but actually I was more on the extrovert side.

Meliza Manalo 04:44

So why do you think you're more introverted?

Patrick DeGuzman 04:47

Well, I do like to stay home more often than going out. But on occasion, I do like to go out with people. But I do like to be home at the same time. But according to this thing, this test, yes, I would say I'm more extroverted at the time.

Meliza Manalo 05:03

So, do you think you're more of like an ambivert? In the middle?

Patrick DeGuzman 05:08

I would say, personally, I would say yes, I'm an ambivert.

Meliza Manalo 05:12

Okay. Yeah, cuz I remember. So, me and Casey a.k.a. Katrina, she thought you were more of an introvert. And kind of more like down the middle, but more on the introverted side. Because she kind of said the same thing, that you kind of like your alone time, too. But I can see it both ways. Because you're kind of like, the life of the party. But then you also like to be on your own. So, I think you're more of an ambivert.

Patrick DeGuzman 05:40

Yeah, I like to stay up. I like to be by myself most of the times. But when it comes to party, I like to have a good time. I like to make sure everybody else has a good time. I kind of get that from my dad. I mean, you've been to those parties. He's always trying to get everybody to join in on the fun. And always try to make sure everybody's enjoying their self whenever he either throws parties or even just when it's just like a regular breakfast or something.

Meliza Manalo 06:05

Mm hmm. You definitely get that from your dad. Like the host of the party, you know?

Patrick DeGuzman 06:12

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Meliza Manalo 06:14

I can see that down the road. Because right now, your dad's place or your parent's places like the party house. Where everyone goes every weekend. So, I can totally see that down the road. Like you being that person.

Patrick DeGuzman 06:29

Oh, yeah. And especially if I'm by myself, you know, I'm like, "Hey, everybody come over. Let's get some drinks. Let's play some video games. You know, I got VR setup" Or whatever is the game of the century at that time I don't know.

Meliza Manalo 06:42

Oh, I bet VR would be super advanced by then.

Patrick DeGuzman 06:46

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Meliza Manalo 06:47

It's pretty good now.

Patrick DeGuzman 06:49

Oh, yeah. It's fun.

Meliza Manalo 06:50

Yeah. So okay, back to our main topic. I guess we should talk about it. So, you got extrovert, but we think you're more ambivert. So, in those terms, what do you think, or not in those terms, but what are your favorite games?

Patrick DeGuzman 07:08

So, when it comes to video games, I'll start with my favorite game of all time. It'll probably be, it'll have to be Bethesda's 'Fallout 3'. I have hundreds of hours, maybe dozens of gameplays because there's just so much to do in this game. And honestly, I appreciate the storyline. And it was kind of the one game that kind of got me closer to your husband. Because we'd always just talk about it. We'd read the strategy guide together. And it's just all around a great game. I highly recommend you play it if you haven't played it before.

Meliza Manalo 07:39

Yeah, that's my all-time favorite game too. I feel like that brought us closer. Me and Brandon also. Because Joseph played it to Mikie played it. So, Joseph is my nephew, Mikie is my brother. And like a ton of people played it that year. Didn't it win Game of the Year or something?

Patrick DeGuzman 08:02

It did. I have Game of the year edition.

Meliza Manalo 08:04

Yeah. That's a good game. Okay, so that's your all-time favorite. And then what were you gonna say?

Patrick DeGuzman 08:10

Oh, and I also like to play, a lot of, I would say, my second game favorite games to play would have to be Minecraft. But by myself is great and all but I love to play with people. Yeah, I love playing Minecraft with other people. It's so fun. It's so like, after playing something super stressful, I can play and just relax. You know, build whatever I want. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 08:38

Yeah, I love Minecraft. That's the one game that we all played together. I think that's the one game that brought our two families together. That sounds funny. But it brought our families together in a way. You know what I mean? Like, me and Brandon played it. My brother played it. Even Joseph played it a little bit. And a bunch of our friends did, and you and Leah. Now, even now, it's like still... because we played it at the very beginning. Like, when what's his face? Notch, right? He first created. It was still in beta. And it was the very, very start of it all. We were playing it back then. And we're still kind of playing it now. So, it's a good game for people to play with their families and friends.

Patrick DeGuzman 09:34

And it kind of shows how people are too in the sense. Because my girlfriend now. I was on my computer. I have this really expensive computer that I play games on. And she goes, "Oh, you have Minecraft on here?" And I'm like, "Yeah". She's like, "Can I play?" And I'm just like, "You want to play Minecraft on my computer?" And she's like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Oh, okay, yeah, let me set it up for you." And she just sat there for hours and just played. It's like a game anyone could just pick up and enjoy. And she doesn't play like me. She goes and picks flowers and makes gardens. She doesn't even worry about making a house. Like she made this beautiful garden patch. And I was just like, "You did this in two hours?" She's like "Yeah, but I didn't build a house and I keep getting killed." I'm like, "Okay, let me put on peaceful for you."

Meliza Manalo 10:17

That's funny. Yeah, it's a really good, well rounded game. And it's good for all ages. Like I was saying, we were playing it back then. But we're still playing it now. And we're like adults now. And now we're playing with our little nephew, who's only, how old is Aiden? Six now. And so, he plays with us sometimes. And yeah, like you're saying it does bring out people's personalities. Like, the worlds that we create and what people decide to make in them. It's completely different. Like, your area of our Minecraft world is completely different from my area.

Patrick DeGuzman 10:55

Yeah, yours is more artistic and beautiful and planned out more. Mine is, I build a house. And then after I build the house, I get as many materials as I can, like diamonds and Iron and all that stuff. And just get myself super wealthy. And then I'll start thinking, you know, I want to build a butcher shop, I want to build a tree house, I want to build a garden and stuff like that.

Meliza Manalo 11:20

Yeah, it's insane. Because we're also in very different part, not different parts, but we're pretty spread out too in the world. So, I'll be doing my own thing. And I have a really nice house. Like, I'll decorate it. And I have my garden planned out. And everything's planned out and symmetrical and everything. And then I'll go over to Patrick's place. And it's just like this giant empire of all kinds of different house. Because you even have your tree house and then your mansion, and then your... It's just huge, massive. And I was like, how did this even happen in the last three hours?

Patrick DeGuzman 11:58

Hey, what I gave, I game hard, you know what I'm saying? I have to play. I have to keep everybody entertained.

Meliza Manalo 12:05

That's kind of going back to that article, what I was saying. So, I forgot to mention. So, introverts tend to play more RPGs. More like solo games. Whereas extroverts tend to play more multiplayer games. But you literally just said that you like Fallout 3 as your main game. But you also like Minecraft playing with other people. So that kind of plays into your ambivert personality. Like how you're both. You know what I mean?

Patrick DeGuzman 12:36

Yeah, cuz I love playing RPG single player games. Because you know, I love a good story. I'll play a story over and over again. I don't know how many times I played BioShock. All three of them. I played all three of them. Probably at least five times each. And I just love the story of that. And then I'll go out and I'll play a game like Rainbow Six Siege, which is a multiplayer game. And if you've ever played it, it doesn't have a story. It's just you have an objective. You do whatever it takes with a five-man team to get that objective. And it just shows the different stories, the different sides of the spectrum I am. Because I'll play either one for hours on end, but I just don't stick to one specific game.

Meliza Manalo 13:22

Yeah, and that's interesting. So, I'm definitely an introvert. I mean, that's the whole podcast. Because I'm The Talkative introvert. And I do like multiplayer games, but I play mostly solo games. And I played like the different Fallout games. I played Fallout 3 and New Vegas and Fallout 4 and all that. And I love Stardew Valley.

Patrick DeGuzman 13:50

Oh, Stardew Valley. I love Stardew Valley.

Meliza Manalo 13:52

I know. I have a lot of hours in that one too. And I like those kinds of games. I like... What's that one?

Patrick DeGuzman 14:03

Harvest Moon?

Meliza Manalo 14:04

Oh, yeah, I grew up playing Harvest Moon. I love Harvest Moon. But there's this one specifically that we were playing. Rim World.

Patrick DeGuzman 14:13

Oh, Rim World. Yeah, your brother was telling me to get into it.

Meliza Manalo 14:17

Have you played that?

Patrick DeGuzman 14:19

I have not. I remember he told me he was gonna play it. So lately, I've just been looking to see if people play the games, they told me to play. So, I'll be like, let's see what he's playing. And if he doesn't play it for weeks on end, I don't play it. I don't go and buy it.

Meliza Manalo 14:34

Yeah, luckily you can play multiplayer. But I do enjoy playing it single player as well. Because it's very, I like those ones where it has either a good story, one. Or two, It's like one of those strategy games, it's like survival type games. And like management type games, I guess. I guess you could call it. So, I love those. And that definitely plays into my personality a lot. I like playing multiplayer games. I do like when we play Rust. Like I've mentioned this to you before. But when we play Rust, it also really shows our personality, too. So how would you describe Rust? For people who don't know what game that is?

Patrick DeGuzman 15:24

So, Rust. First of all, it's a game you have to be patient. You have to really engage yourself to play it. Because it's all real time. Not like day wise, I'm talking like, all your stuff, your server is on all the time. If you're offline, somebody else around the world can be online. But it's like an open world, kind of open world or open map where you go, and you collect all these components. And you get all these scrapping materials to help build up your base in your materials and get in items to build up to get rockets to pretty much explode or raid other players. And the point of the game is just raid and get the best loot until the server wipes. Pretty much.

Meliza Manalo 16:10

Yeah. So, you start off with nothing. So, you only start off with a rock and a torch. And you're like completely naked. You don't even get to pick your person. Because I think the Ouch, the creator was saying he doesn't want to do that because he wants to be pretty real. Like as if you're just stranded on the island. And you don't get to pick your person because you don't get to pick who you are in real life. Like your skin color and all that stuff. But you do get to pick your gender. So, you're kind of like completely naked, you only have a rock and a torch. And you're starting from scratch and just building up. And then like Patrick was saying it's like on a server. So, you're playing with, you can play with literally anyone around the world who has the game Rust. It's completely random, right?

Patrick DeGuzman 17:03

Yeah, you get all these servers. You can talk with them. They can mess with you when you're offline, you can mess with them when they're offline. It's just a fun game.

Meliza Manalo 17:15

Yeah, so we still play that a lot. And I always find it funny because like, back to our personalities. So, Patrick and... so not Brandon, my husband, oh no, Brandon too. And our other family member. I call him Bdubs. So, his name is Brandon too, but just to differentiate. So, they're good at talking to people. And they'll engage with other people. And they'll even play with other people and do stuff with them, like explore the world with them. But I stay in my place. I always stay back at the camp. And I will make my little garden in my little house. You know, just take care of our campsite. Whereas the guys will go and just explore and talk to other people.

Patrick DeGuzman 18:08

Yeah, and while I play these games, with my friends and family, I tend to get a little rowdy. I'm the loud one who likes to talk to everybody, even if there is some random dude just coming up to us. I'm like, "Hey! Who are you?" You know, because when we play these games, you tend to be a little more on the role player side, right? You like to do nice houses and you like to explore the full extent of the game compared to me who's like, "Oh, I gotta get guns. I gotta get boom, I gotta get this base down." Like...

Meliza Manalo 18:38

Yeah, exactly. I'll go and explore by myself too. Like, if I need to go get my own resources. You guys tend to go in groups together and explore new places, but I'll just go on my own. Because we'll be on the discord, and I remember people who are playing with me like, "Where did Mia go? She has disappeared." And then I'll just randomly appear back at the camp with all my stuff.

Patrick DeGuzman 19:10

Yeah, that used to happen a lot. Or like when me and Brandon Waterworth. And not your husband, and the other and your husband actually, we just decided to raid somebody for the first time when we were playing this game. We spent like an hour trying to break this dude's door down because he didn't really understand the game completely. And we're just doing this and doing this, and we left our base, and we came back, and we just see this this house. I would say this beautiful house that's just like, oh man, you can definitely tell that this person is a role player because they got a garden out front. And it's just looks so nice. And I got my little two by two shack at the beach. So, I'm just like, "Okay, Mia. We were gone for an hour. How did you get all this done? You were so quiet. We honestly thought you were you're asleep or something."

Meliza Manalo 20:03

Yeah. Pretty much having to play. That's how it is on Minecraft too. I'll just be quiet. And then I'll randomly hear Patrick saying, "Hey, Mia, go check out my place." And I'll be like, "Okay." And I'll just go over there and go check out your place.

Patrick DeGuzman 20:19

Yeah. It's kind of funny, honestly. What would you say Leah is like?

Meliza Manalo 20:26


Patrick DeGuzman 20:27


Meliza Manalo 20:28

Well, she only plays Minecraft with us. I think she's more like me. We kind of have a very similar personality type. But she's more vocal, I think.

Patrick DeGuzman 20:42

Oh, yeah, for sure. She speaks her mind. That's what I love about her. If you listen to this Louie, you heard that right.

Meliza Manalo 20:50

Aww. Her episode's gonna come up before yours actually.

Patrick DeGuzman 20:57

Oh, really?

Meliza Manalo 20:59

Because I scheduled your, specifically on your birthday.

Patrick DeGuzman 21:04


Meliza Manalo 21:04

So, everyone, if you go check out Patrick's Instagram page, if I have, you know, engaging listeners out there, go tell Patty Happy Birthday.

Patrick DeGuzman 21:16

Oh, yeah. Thanks. Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm always open to just somebody saying 'Happy birthday' to me. I meet a lot of different people in my line of work, so it's just like, I'm used to just some random person like, "Oh, it's your birthday? Hey, happy birthday. How old are you? What? 18-19?", "Oh, I'm about to be 25". "No, you look like you're 16". I'm like, "No, I'm manly as hell. Leave me alone."

Meliza Manalo 21:43

Asian problems?

Patrick DeGuzman 21:45


Meliza Manalo 21:47

That's like Brandon. When he shaves, he looks like a baby.

Patrick DeGuzman 21:52

Mm hmm. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 21:53

Yes. You have your stash.

Patrick DeGuzman 21:56

Yeah, but I think I'm about to shave it again. It's still not growing in full.

Meliza Manalo 22:00

Okay. So, what are you doing for your birthday?

Patrick DeGuzman 22:06

So, I actually can't do anything because Hawaii is in complete lockdown for the next 10 days. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 22:16

You're just gonna like, have dinner at your house? No, no.

Patrick DeGuzman 22:21

Probably just cook, you know. Just cook for myself and the girlfriend. If she wants me to cook for her. Even though, she should be cooking for me. I don't know. You know, cuz it's my birthday. But I like to cook in the house.

Meliza Manalo 22:36

Oh yeah, you said you took up cooking.

Patrick DeGuzman 22:40

Yeah. Gordon Ramsay. Shout out to you. You know, you taught me a few things in the kitchen. Like how to cut an onion. And I was like, Oh, okay. Okay. Baby steps, baby steps.

Meliza Manalo 22:55

You'd be surprised how many people don't know how to cut an onion.

Patrick DeGuzman 22:59

Oh, yeah. I think he called it rugged chopping, where people, they'll just take an onion and they'll cut it into strips. And they'll just go chopchopchop. You know, and just cut into uneven strands and it doesn't let the food sweat. You know when you put it in the pan. You know when you sweat an onion? It just doesn't work like that if you got tiny little pieces.

Meliza Manalo 23:22

Yeah. I worked at Chipotle. So, we had to have perfect cut sizes all the time. I actually got tendinitis from it. Because I'm short. I'm only 5'1". And the cutting tables at work were like, or at Chipotle, I think were meant for, I don't know, the average American. I don't know. But I was too short for it. And so, my wrist was at a weird angle. So, I got Tendinitis from cutting onions and bell peppers.

Patrick DeGuzman 23:54

Yeah, I was blessed with good genes. I don't know where it came from. Everybody in my family is beneath 5'7". But thank goodness I'm six foot. Oh, thank goodness.

Meliza Manalo 24:06

You're six foot? Like exactly six foot?

Patrick DeGuzman 24:10

My job has done a blot on me. If I don't slouch, which I do slouch a lot, I'm six foot. But when I do the measure and I try and force myself to stand up straight, I'm like 5'11".

Meliza Manalo 24:24

Wait what? If you slouch, you're six foot but when you stand up straight, you're 5'11'?

Patrick DeGuzman 24:28

When I'm not slouching, I mean. Is what I meant to say sorry.

Meliza Manalo 24:31

Okay. I was like, that was confusing.

Patrick DeGuzman 24:33

It's a long week, long day. Sorry, I'm not that stupid, okay.

Meliza Manalo 24:41

Like, what are you talking about?

Patrick DeGuzman 24:42

I'm over here just like duh! Duh!

Meliza Manalo 24:45

So, you are six foot if you stand up straight. Got it.

Patrick DeGuzman 24:48


Meliza Manalo 24:49

I didn't realize. But yeah, you are pretty tall. But I mean, for me, everybody's tall. So (Laughter)

Patrick DeGuzman 24:57

That is true. I can only imagine whenever I would go over to your mom's house, she's probably one of the smallest people I've seen in a while.

Meliza Manalo 25:05

Oh, yeah, she's only 4'9". She's used to be 4'9". I feel like she's shrinking. So, she's probably like 4'8" now. Or 4'7". And she is super tiny. She's only 90 pounds, I think.

Patrick DeGuzman 25:19


Meliza Manalo 25:20

Yeah, she's tiny. She's cute. She's feisty, though. Don't mess with my mom.

Patrick DeGuzman 25:26

Oh yeah, she's feisty. But she can cook. The Embutido, ohh!

Meliza Manalo 25:30

Oh, I need to ask her to make some Embutido. She doesn't cater anymore, unfortunately.

Patrick DeGuzman 25:39

Yeah, that was like, I remember one time I was like, "Yeah, you should ask your mom if she can. Like, I can buy some from her." And she was just like, "Oh, no" And she ended up just giving you a roll and you just made it for everybody. I was just so happy.

Meliza Manalo 25:52

Yeah, if you're family, you get it for free.

Patrick DeGuzman 25:55


Meliza Manalo 25:56

I miss that. Because now she just cooks for herself because she's tired. Yeah, that makes sense. She's retired now. She's got other stuff to do. She's gardening now.

Patrick DeGuzman 26:07

Oooh. Okay.

Meliza Manalo 26:08

Yeah. And she's got all kinds of stuff. She's got squash, bitter melon, okra, eggplant. She's got all kinds of trees, tomatoes, and different green beans. She's got all kinds of stuff.

Patrick DeGuzman 26:25

Oh, yeah. I see where you get it from now.

Meliza Manalo 26:27

And it's weird. Yeah, that's right. But like virtually, I can't keep a real plant alive. I don't know why. Because I do like plants and I want to garden. But I'm struggling. I'm struggling to keep alive a succulent. And succulents are supposed to be super easy.

Patrick DeGuzman 26:45

I had a pet succulent. Yes, I have a pet plant. Her name was Lola. But as I bought her, I was so excited. And I had the instructions. It was just like, oh, you just got to keep her in direct sunlight for this amount of time to the day and water every few days. And I was like, alright, so it's easy enough. I get home. And as I get home, I realize there is no direct sunlight in my room at all. And I live on the fourth floor. I lived on the fourth floor in a dorm. So, I thought of sticking her out the window. And just letting her sit on the ledge out there would keep her alive. But nope, wasn't direct sunlight. So, I did the mature thing. And I had to give Lola to somebody who takes care of plants because I didn't want her to die. So...

Meliza Manalo 27:29

Oh, that's sweet.

Patrick DeGuzman 27:30

Yeah. I was so embarrassed. Because I brought her to the beach one time, and she had her own little pot I got to the beach. Let her get that sun. She was so happy over there. You can tell because leaves were like, she was very green and very healthy then. And then when I took her home a few days later, she started to get a little squishy.

Meliza Manalo 27:53


Patrick DeGuzman 27:53

I'm like, yeah, I don't know if it's a good idea. I can't be going to the beach every day.

Meliza Manalo 27:57

Yeah, for your plant, for your pet plant.

Patrick DeGuzman 28:00


Meliza Manalo 28:01

Yeah. I know, my mom gave me a bunch of plants. And she's like, "It's easy. Just water it." And I was like, "Okay, we'll see." We'll see. She gave me a few plants; we'll see if it's still alive. Anyways. Before we move on, I want to talk to you guys about Buzzsprout. Buzzsprout makes it easy for any aspiring podcaster like myself, get started and get listed on all the popular podcast platforms. With their easy-to-follow instructions and numerous resources. If you're thinking about starting a podcast, I highly suggest getting hosted on Buzzsprout. New podcasters get a $20 Amazon gift card when you sign up for a paid plan. Follow the link in the description to let them know I sent you and to support the show. If you do start a podcast, please let me know. I'd love to hear all about it. We definitely went on a tangent. I can't remember what's the last thing we talked about? Rust, huh?

Patrick DeGuzman 28:53

Yeah, we were talking about Rust and then building, like going off and doing your own thing for like an hour. And then like just coming back and we're just like, "Whoa!"

Meliza Manalo 29:03

Oh, yeah, we were talking about Leah. Cuz she's like, so Leah, she's in the episode previous to Patrick, but she's my sister-in-law in case you guys didn't hear that episode. But she also plays with us. We have like a whole group. We have like a text group. That will text in there randomly. And then if we want to play games, some will be like, "Hey, does anyone want to play games tonight?" Which hasn't happened in a while. But I also think that hasn't happened in a while too because Bdubs is on a 60-day videogame cleanse.

Patrick DeGuzman 29:39

Yeah. So good.

Meliza Manalo 29:40

Which sounds funny.

Patrick DeGuzman 29:42

Yeah, it's always good to go on these cleanses whether it be even something as simple as video games.

Meliza Manalo 29:49

Yeah, because I feel like he plays more than we do.

Patrick DeGuzman 29:54

Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 29:57

Because I'll just randomly be on my computer and he's already on Steam. And then, what was it? We were playing Payday with him. There's just like me, Brandon, my brother, and then, him. And we were finishing up playing because Mikie and Brandon had to go to work the next morning. And he was still playing till four in the morning, I think. And he had to get up at six.

Patrick DeGuzman 30:28

Yeah, I don't know how many times Brandon Waterworth and I have stayed up late playing video games. I think at one point, I played Rust for 20 hours straight.

Meliza Manalo 30:42

Really? 20 hours?

Patrick DeGuzman 30:44

Yeah, I had a four-day weekend. Brandon Waterworth texted me. He's like, "Hey, do you want to play a dual server Rust?" And I was just like, "Hell yeah." Then we played. And I realized after playing for that long that I had a problem. And then, I remember I took the half the next day off to play. And it was like I played from Friday night. No Friday morning at 7am to 4am the next day.

Meliza Manalo 31:18

Oh my God.

Patrick DeGuzman 31:20

With little breaks here and there. Go to the bathroom, get food, obviously. But yeah.

Meliza Manalo 31:25

Yeah, obviously.

Patrick DeGuzman 31:27

Else I would have died.

Meliza Manalo 31:30

That's crazy. That's why he's on a cleanse. Because he plays so much video games.

Patrick DeGuzman 31:38

Yeah. Keep in mind that I'm in Hawaii. And he's in Cali. I'm three hours behind him.

Meliza Manalo 31:45

Yeah, exactly.

Patrick DeGuzman 31:47

So, it was 7am when I was at 4am.

Meliza Manalo 31:51

Yeah, I was just thinking about this. 4am, so it's seven o'clock. So basically, he just stayed up the whole night. How does he do that? Because he also has two kids. And they're very energetic kids too. Like they're not like, they love to play, and they just have so much energy. And I'm just like, how are you doing this? Like he must be hyped up on caffeine or something.

Patrick DeGuzman 32:18

I think, if I'm not mistaken, I don't think he drinks that much coffee or monsters. I don't think he drinks monsters or energy drinks at all. But yeah, his kids, my niece and nephew, ohh! Emma is so cute. But I heard she's very rowdy.

Meliza Manalo 32:37

She's a Sour Patch Kid. That's what we concluded. And she's very like, I wouldn't be surprised if she did like a contact sport in high school, you know?

Patrick DeGuzman 32:48

Oh, yeah. Like wrestling?

Meliza Manalo 32:51

Oh, she could totally do wrestling.

Patrick DeGuzman 32:53

Yeah, she wrestles Aiden to the ground. And Aiden's what four years older than her?

Meliza Manalo 32:58

But Aiden is like light as a feather. I can see him doing maybe, cross country or track or maybe, or not even that, maybe just like, I don't know, like the art classes or something.

Patrick DeGuzman 33:11

Yeah. Or swimming.

Meliza Manalo 33:13

Yeah, swimming.

Patrick DeGuzman 33:14


Meliza Manalo 33:15

Emma's a beast.

Patrick DeGuzman 33:17

Yeah, she definitely is like her daddy.

Meliza Manalo 33:21

Yeah. Aiden's like Jhoane and then Emma's like Brandon.

Patrick DeGuzman 33:26

Oh, yeah. That's why she's a daddy's girl.

Meliza Manalo 33:30

Definitely. They're cute. They're cute kids. Super smart, too. I feel like kids nowadays are just smart in general.

Patrick DeGuzman 33:40

Yeah, you know, what would be an interesting topic for you? Would you say kids today are more extrovert or introvert?

Meliza Manalo 33:49

Kids today?

Patrick DeGuzman 33:51


Meliza Manalo 33:53

That's kind of hard to say.

Patrick DeGuzman 33:55

You see a lot of social influencers go around having parties and doing this. Like TikTok, for instance. For some reason, everybody has to have a TikTok. Everybody's doing a TikTok. They're trying to get big like, they're people on vine, who used to have vines. And it's like making other people want to do, like, do things that they're uncomfortable with. I'm not comfortable putting my phone up and asking somebody like, "Hey, record me do this dance real quick. We're out in public in this area." Like, if I don't know the person. I've seen people do that here, at the beach. They'll be doing TikToks. And I'm like, okay, this is weird. This is not normal to me.

Meliza Manalo 34:34

I think, younger generations, I think they're more shameless, you know what I mean? They don't care as much. They don't care. That's why they're doing all this TikTok stuff. I would never do that in public. But like all kinds of people are doing. You see it everywhere. It's almost normal to see it. Well, not now obviously, because of the pandemic. But before all this, it's like really normal to see that. I'd like to like, I don't know if it's appropriate to have Ava on the show, because that's how I was saying, like, my show isn't really meant for adults. Yeah, Geez, they're not meant for kids. But it'd be nice to see, get her perspective because she's a youngin. Yeah, she's only 12.

Patrick DeGuzman 35:25

Yeah, she's definitely like a mixture of Leah and Michael.

Meliza Manalo 35:30


Patrick DeGuzman 35:32

Because I think Michael is more introvert.

Meliza Manalo 35:35

Yeah, definitely. He's like a stereotypical introvert too. Like, he's shy. He's quiet.

Patrick DeGuzman 35:46

He doesn't drink. He doesn't have to drink to enjoy himself. He keeps to himself.

Meliza Manalo 35:53

He's very observant too. You don't think he's listening., but he's listening. He knows what's going on in the parties.

Patrick DeGuzman 36:01


Meliza Manalo 36:02

He's definitely introverted because he always leaves early when he can. Like if he's able to, if he has the car or something, he'll go home early.

Patrick DeGuzman 36:11

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Meliza Manalo 36:13

It's happened plenty of times. And I'm just like, "Take me with you." Just kidding.

Patrick DeGuzman 36:20

I remember when I used to see you, you'd come to these parties. And you'd disappear, you and Brandon would disappear. It's just like, "It's too many people here. I don't want to be with everybody else."

Meliza Manalo 36:31

It's hard to say bye. Because there's so many people. And the moment you say like, "Okay, I'm gonna leave now." It's like, "Okay, now we all have to take a bunch of family pictures." You know?

Patrick DeGuzman 36:42

And you have to say bye to every single person and not once, not twice, but at least three times before you leave.

Meliza Manalo 36:48

Exactly. So, if you want to leave a family event or a Filipino event, if you want to leave at eight, you have to say goodbye at six. Something like that.

Patrick DeGuzman 37:01

Yeah, or you can be like, you guys are pretty good. Y'all be halfway up out the driveway. And you're like, "We're leaving now. Bye!" And everybody just comes out and says, "Bye!" at the same time.

Meliza Manalo 37:13

Yeah, we'll try to sneak out. Because those pictures are like, when we take pictures, it's not just one picture. It's like the whole family. Then they're like, "Okay, now just the cousins." Then like, "Okay, just the boys." Then just the girls. It's like different types of pictures and not just one big picture.

Patrick DeGuzman 37:34

Yeah, you guys are like professional introverts.

Meliza Manalo 37:39

We've got it down.

Patrick DeGuzman 37:40


Meliza Manalo 37:41

But some people are really good at what's it called? I think people are starting to know us a lot better now too. Especially since I mean, obviously, we've been together for 13 years. But people know the right things to say, to get us to come over too. I've noticed.

Patrick DeGuzman 38:03

Yeah, that's true.

Meliza Manalo 38:06

And I was like, dang, they're starting to catch on. Because some people, I won't name names, but some people will say like, "Oh, come over. It's just us." And just us is very big. But it's assuming that 'just us' means just like a small group of people. But then when you get there, it's like, "Yeah, it's just them." But then they'll call everyone over. So, it's no longer just us.

Patrick DeGuzman 38:33

It has happened so many times. Every time I go home my dad would be like, oh, invite Zara. And then we'll have a little gathering. And then my aunt will show up and Michael and Ava. And then my uncle will show up with all the kids. And then Brandon and Jhoane and their kids will show up. And what was supposed to be something simple, would just turn into this massive gathering and everybody would just be drinking and talking, just partying and then at one o'clock we start playing Mahjong. And we play Mahjong for two hours. It's always a party.

Meliza Manalo 39:08

It's like zero to 100 real quick. It's crazy. It's funny. Like it actually just happened. No, not to that extent, but Jhoane invited us over for dinner, like me and Brandon. And we were like, yeah, we can go. And then she texted us afterwards. And she's like, "Oh, by the way, I'm gonna invite mom and Michael and Ava and Brenda." And it was just so funny because Brandon sent the meme, that Star Wars meme, 'It's a trap.' (Laughter) Just joking though.

Patrick DeGuzman 39:44

Yeah, Brandon definitely knows better.

Meliza Manalo 39:47

Yeah. It's okay that we haven't seen them in a while. And I do enjoy spending time with them. I just thought it was funny because it's like, "Oh, so you plan to see that after we already said yes?"

Patrick DeGuzman 39:58

Yeah. I'm so astonished that it's already September. I know there's three days left, but it's like pretty much September. We've been dealing with this pandemic since March. It's like, where did these months go?

Meliza Manalo 40:17

Yeah, we lost her entire summer basically. And it's crazy.

Patrick DeGuzman 40:24

Yeah, we have a lot of people turn 21 around me. A lot of people that are like friend group around here.

Meliza Manalo 40:29

Oh yeah.

Patrick DeGuzman 40:30

They didn't get to experience that real 21st birthday out in town, you know, party, you know, just 21 and then waking up the next day regretting it.

Meliza Manalo 40:42

Yeah, I know. I feel for those people. Like, I totally feel for people graduating, people turning 21, people like, I don't know, like, oh, like your dad. I felt so bad because it's his 50th birthday. And last year, we were talking about like how we're gonna make it so big, and we're gonna do something. I think he wanted to go to Vegas and all that stuff.

Patrick DeGuzman 41:08

Yeah. And then COVID hit. It was just like; I feel so terrible. You know, we're planning on buying their hotel room, buying their flights, buying all this stuff for them to do it. Because he really wanted to go to Washington.

Meliza Manalo 41:23


Patrick DeGuzman 41:24

Yeah, he really wanted to go to Washington with my mom. And that just couldn't happen.

Meliza Manalo 41:31

What's up in Washington?

Patrick DeGuzman 41:33

I don't know. I think he just wanted to go like the Puget Sound. And like the market or something. I don't know why he wanted to go to Seattle. But he did.

Meliza Manalo 41:41

Oh, interesting. Yeah, I know, they didn't get to do that. Because they don't really travel that much either. Like, they don't really go on vacation actually in general.

Patrick DeGuzman 41:51

My dad's idea of a vacation is to stay home and relax. Which is fine. It's the introvert vacation.

Meliza Manalo 41:59

Yeah. Which is weird because he's definitely not an introvert.

Patrick DeGuzman 42:02

Oh, yeah, for sure. But he's like, honestly, if I was to say, the closest person I am to, would have to be my dad. We act almost the same. We will mess with our siblings and people in a joking way. And then on Sundays, like, we don't want anybody to come over. We want to just relax and just be lazy or not lazy, just want to relax and be by ourselves.

Meliza Manalo 42:31


Patrick DeGuzman 42:31

We're watching TV. Yeah, recover. And then on Saturday, it's just like, let's party, you know?

Meliza Manalo 42:37

Mm hmm. Yeah. You're very much like your dad. Even your mannerisms. How you move how you walk, how you talk, very much like your dad.

Patrick DeGuzman 42:49

I think all the siblings agree that I would be, all my siblings, Katrina, Jonathan, Kaylee, and Katrina twice.

Meliza Manalo 42:58

Yeah, you definitely are like mini-Reuben.

Patrick DeGuzman 43:08

But I'm not embarrassed by our ashamed by. I'm more than happy to be like him. He's a good dude.

Meliza Manalo 43:16

Yeah, everyone loves your dad. He has that personality.

Patrick DeGuzman 43:20

Yeah, he doesn't like confrontation. He doesn't like to cause it either. Let's get that. Let's get that clear, though. But...

Meliza Manalo 43:29

No, definitely not. He's not the... like in last episode, we kind of talked about how Filipinos like to you know, they like to gossip. But he's not the gossiping type. And he's not the one who tries to be in the middle of drama, or anything like that. That's what I like about him.

Patrick DeGuzman 43:49

Yeah. And whenever gossip comes around, he's always like, and I'm listening to it, he just looks at me. And he goes, don't just don't do it. Don't say anything. Even if it bugs you, just accept it. I'm like, Okay, all right. I don't need this confrontation. Let them speak.

Meliza Manalo 44:10

Yeah. That's why he's never in the middle of it. He's never the one people are mad at usually.

Patrick DeGuzman 44:20

No, not really.

Meliza Manalo 44:22

I lost my train of thought already. What was I gonna say? We keep going on different tangents. I can't remember what we were talking about on our topic.

Patrick DeGuzman 44:30

Me neither. We started talking about Leah and the family and then we got to my dad. You know, the stuff.

Meliza Manalo 44:36

We get from Minecraft to your dad.

Patrick DeGuzman 44:40

Oh, it's just so crazy. Like how you just go down these conversation rabbit holes. It's like when you're on YouTube, you'd be looking at videos on how to fix something and end up looking at pandas falling off a tree. And then it's just like, how did I get here?

Meliza Manalo 44:56

Yeah, cuz today. Oh man. I shouldn't admit this. I had a really hard time focusing on work. Oh, geez. So, when I work, I listened to a podcast on learning how to speak Tagalog. Because although that's the first language I learned, I'm not like, I don't speak it very well. Because my parents didn't really enforce it in the house. But I can understand it completely. And we want to teach Sohvi, my niece, my brother's daughter, how to speak Tagalog. So, I've been kind of brushing up on all that stuff. And so, I went from that podcast to learning how to roll my R's. Because I can't roll my R's, to the news, or something like that. And then learning about my Myers Briggs personality. It's completely different subjects like throughout the whole time. And then I even listened to a podcast about psychic, which has nothing to do with Tagalog.

Patrick DeGuzman 46:02

Yeah, I do that all the time. And sometimes it becomes so bad. Because I'll be laying in my bed with my phone in my hand. And I'll just be watching the video. And I'll see a suggestive video like, oh, that looks interesting. And then I go, oh, that looks interesting. Oh, that looks interesting. And it just keeps going and going. And I look at my phone. I'm like, oh shit, it's two in the morning. I got work.

Meliza Manalo 46:27

Yeah, exactly. Because honestly, I love podcasts that go off tangents. So, I don't really care. I mean, I care about the topic, obviously. Because I like having that one topic that we're talking about. But I do like going on tangents because sometimes you hear the most interesting stories off random tangents from the episode, you know?

Patrick DeGuzman 46:51

Yeah. Cuz we started talking about video games. And now we're starting to talk about like...

Meliza Manalo 46:57


Patrick DeGuzman 46:58 And now tangents. We're tangenting about tangents.

Meliza Manalo 47:03

Exactly. And I also want to do those little brainstorming session with you, Patty. Because I feel like you have a lot of good ideas. So, I don't know if you listen to a lot of podcasts, but I know a lot of YouTubers too who also do this. So, when they have a guest on, there's always a specific question that they asked all their guests regardless of the topic. And I kind of want to do that too, going forward with all my guests. So, I do have everyone take the test, whether they're an introvert, extrovert or ambivert. Because that ties into the whole podcast thing. But one podcast that I listen to there's like, "What would be your death row meal?" And then, you know like, I don't know if you listen to the H3 podcast anymore.

Patrick DeGuzman 47:56

I do.

Meliza Manalo 47:58

Okay, they used to do this. But the so always ask their guests what supernatural experience they've had or something like that. So, I want to figure out what's a good question for my podcast.

Patrick DeGuzman 48:16

I like that idea, you know. If I was to ask a question for your podcast, what if you ask them, "If you could be half sausage, would you rather be top half sausage or bottom half sausage?"

Meliza Manalo 48:37

What does that mean?

Patrick DeGuzman 48:40

(Laughter) Just kidding. You have one sausage for legs, you know? Or just, like, you know, sausage top with the legs, you know? (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 48:52

No, I don't know. I don't even know how to answer that question.

Patrick DeGuzman 49:00

That's my 'break the ice' question if I meet new people. And I always ask them like, "Hey, would you put your toilet paper on the wall? You put the toilet paper towards the wall or towards the bowl?

Meliza Manalo 49:15

Oh, it's under over?

Patrick DeGuzman 49:17

Yeah, the under and over question.

Meliza Manalo 49:20

Those are very much Patrick questions, if you were to have a podcast. But I'm not sure if I'll ask this question.

Patrick DeGuzman 49:28

You can ask them like, "If you can change whether you be an introvert, extrovert or an ambivert, would you do it? And if so, why?

Meliza Manalo 49:40

Oh, that's a good one. That's a very like insightful one.

Patrick DeGuzman 49:43

Yeah, cuz, you know, I would say, I'm in a good spot because I know when to party and I know what I want to be by myself. You know, some people might want to be like, "I'm an introvert. And I would love to go out and meet more people but it's I'm just not comfortable doing that." You know, you might get some very interesting answers. I was listening to your love languages podcasts and Bailey, she likes to touch people, you know, to get their attention, you know. And Katrina just likes to be loud and talk to get people's attention that way. But like me...

Meliza Manalo 50:24

And just to explain, sorry, before. We're not saying Bailey likes to touch people in an inappropriate way, but she's a very, how would you say, she likes hugs and likes shoulder rubs and stuff like that. Nothing inappropriate. It just really sounded weird when you said that.

Patrick DeGuzman 50:41

Yeah, sorry. I'm not good with my words. I'm like that dude from Good Burger. When I read the menu at a restaurant. "I know some of these words." That's just kind of how I am. (Laughter)

Meliza Manalo 50:57

Sorry, just that, people might take up the wrong way.

Patrick DeGuzman 51:00

Yeah, sorry Bailey. I know you're probably gonna listen to this and you're gonna be like, "What the fuck Patrick? Come on." I'm just sorry. But as I was saying, though, like Katrina, for instance, I've known Katrina for 20 years now. And like, she is my...

Meliza Manalo 51:20

Oh duh! Sorry, I just realized like 20 years! She's older than that. Okay, never mind.

Patrick DeGuzman 51:24

Yeah, she's my stepsister. But she's more of like my closest friend because we were literally the same age. She's born in April. I'm born in September of the same year. Same with Leah. And I'm pretty close to Leah too. But when it comes to Katrina, her love language is very introvert in my eyes. I've known her for so long. And I've seen her for when she was going after boys. She likes to keep to herself. And she has all these emotions for people. And she wants to express them to these people that she might like. But she doesn't know how to. Like, she told me a story about how she liked this guy. And this guy would look at her whenever she would go out to the gym or something if he was there. And he would look at him, and he would she would smile at him and he would smile back, but she would never say anything. So, one day, she gets the urge to finally, okay, so she writes him a letter, like and puts it on his car. She wasn't stalking him or anything. She just happened to see him go into his car one day. And she left him a note. And she didn't hear back from him to my knowledge. But see, if you've known Katrina and you listened to her podcast, she's very loud, very extrovert, very 'in your face' but in a nice range.

Meliza Manalo 52:41


Patrick DeGuzman 52:41

And outgoing. But when it comes to her love language, she's very introverted about it. Like she keeps that stuff to herself.

Meliza Manalo 52:52

Yeah, cuz her love language, I think, if I remember correctly, is quality time, which is like one on one with that person and spending time with that person. Which I feel like is very introverted, too, but she is very much an extrovert.

Patrick DeGuzman 53:09

Yeah, like, what you said quality time can be very introverted, right? Like when it goes back to what our first topic, we were talking about video games. You and we both brought up, I brought up that my favorite game was Fallout 3.

Meliza Manalo 53:22

Mm hmm.

Patrick DeGuzman 53:23

It's not my favorite game, because I've played it so many times. But it's also my favorite game, because I've watched people play it and have quality time watching them play it and watching how they did things. And that's what made the game, in my opinion, my favorite. I love, like I would go to Brandon's house and watch him play and be so amazed. And be like, "Man, I want to see what I can do different", you know. And it kind of goes with the whole changing a topic that's meant to be introverted, but turning into an extrovert event, you know.

Meliza Manalo 53:58

Mm hmm. That's your ambivert self.

Patrick DeGuzman 54:02

Yeah. I'd rather play a game by myself, but have people watch. Just so they can be like, "Oh, this is interesting. And I want to do it too." Or vice versa. I'd watch Brandon play for hours. And then when I play, it's like, "I want to do it my way. See if I can get a different result."

Meliza Manalo 54:21

Did you take the love language quiz?

Patrick DeGuzman 54:23

I did not. I was actually gonna ask you what the link was to that because I was curious to... Because me, I would say if there's a one for a joker, then that would be definitely me. Because I am not attractive in my opinion.

Meliza Manalo 54:38


Patrick DeGuzman 54:39

But I can keep you entertained for a really, really long time. Except, my girlfriend now. She's like, "Oh, you're so attractive. You're attractive. And you're funny. And you're goofy." She calls me goofy and a fool.

Meliza Manalo 54:56

That's cute.

Patrick DeGuzman 54:57

Yeah. Which is like, it's nice, but I always ask her like, "Why do you think I'm attractive?" You know, and then I'll say something stupid like, "You can land a Boeing 787 on my forehead because it's so big." Or like, "Look at this nose. It's huge." I'll just be saying some crazy stuff and she just starts laughing. She's like, "No, you're not. Stop."

Meliza Manalo 55:20

I've sent you the link in the chat. The zoom chat.

Patrick DeGuzman 55:25

Oh, I see it.

Meliza Manalo 55:27

I'm curious now. So, the five languages is, going on another tangent, is like 'Acts of service', 'Receiving gifts', 'Quality time', 'Words of affirmation' and 'Physical touch'.

Patrick DeGuzman 55:44

So, I'm going to be 25 in a week, should I put 25?

Meliza Manalo 55:48


Patrick DeGuzman 55:49


Meliza Manalo 55:50

Are you going to take it?

Patrick DeGuzman 55:51

Yeah, I'm doing it right now as we speak.

Meliza Manalo 55:54

Maybe that's a good question to ask people. "What's your love language?"

Patrick DeGuzman 56:00

Yeah, that's a good thing. But don't ask them like, damn, like, "What's your looove language?" You know?

Meliza Manalo 56:05

I'm not gonna ask them like that. Yeah, I like that question. We'll see if I should do a more obscure one or more insightful one, like what you were saying earlier. Like, if you're an introvert, do you want to be an extrovert or ambivert? And why? Do you want to switch? Because you don't really switch. You're kind of just who you are. Right?

Patrick DeGuzman 56:32

Yeah. Not necessarily changing my whole lifestyle. Just be like, I want to be able to go out and do more stuff, you know? Or I want to stay in more and just focus on me more, you know?

Meliza Manalo 56:44

Yeah. makes sense.

Patrick DeGuzman 56:45

Oh, unexpected project. All right. Sorry, I'm doing this at the same time. But what was your love language?

Meliza Manalo 56:57

What is my love language? I always forget. But I know, number one is 'Acts of service.'

Patrick DeGuzman 57:03

'Acts of service'.

Meliza Manalo 57:04

Yeah. So, I like when people, I don't want to say, do things for me. So, I took it in with a mindset of my love language with Brandon, basically. So, I like when Brandon will do the dishes. Say that the house is like a mess, but I'm super busy. And we have family coming over, but I need to work or something, Brandon will just go and clean the house. Or he'll go like do laundry or every once in a while, Brandon will go and just fill up my gas tank if he sees it's going low or something like that. You know, you know what I mean? Does that make sense?

Patrick DeGuzman 57:53

Yeah, like little gifts, in a sense.

Meliza Manalo 57:56

Yeah. Well, not gifts. Because receiving gifts, I think is pretty low on my list. Because it's not really gifts per se. I don't really care for guess. I mean, I like them, obviously. I'm going to take them if you give it to me. But I like the actions more than I like the gifts. Yeah, that makes sense.

Patrick DeGuzman 58:15

Yeah. So, one of my classes that I'm taking is called 'Sustainable Arts'. And so, I had to write a discussion post about minimalism. And I would say, in a sense, I kind of live like a minimalist.

Meliza Manalo 58:32


Patrick DeGuzman 58:32

Because I have to keep my stuff small because I never know where I'm going next in doing what I do in the military.

Meliza Manalo 58:42

In the military?

Patrick DeGuzman 58:42

Yeah. Let's say, I get put on a ship or something coming up. So, I have to be able to like put all my stuff in either like a storage real quick. And have somebody else have to worry about it. I don't like giving that to anybody, you know, giving somebody that responsibility.

Meliza Manalo 58:56

Mm hmm.

Patrick DeGuzman 58:57


Meliza Manalo 58:58

That's good. Is your girlfriend in the military?

Patrick DeGuzman 59:02


Meliza Manalo 59:02

Okay. That's how you guys met?

Patrick DeGuzman 59:05

Yes. She thought I was goofy. And she liked it. And then one day, I just asked her if she wants to hang out. She said "Yeah." She said exactly like that.

Meliza Manalo 59:20

So romantic.

Patrick DeGuzman 59:22

She said exactly like that, though. I was like, "So do you want to like hang out today?" And we were just gonna play Animal Crossing. That's it.

Meliza Manalo 59:30

That's cute.

Patrick DeGuzman 59:31

Yeah, so we played Animal Crossing, and then just started chit chatting. And then that's kind of how it started.

Meliza Manalo 59:39

You know, Crossing is another good, well rounded game too. Everyone can play it.

Patrick DeGuzman 59:45

Oh, yeah. For sure.

Meliza Manalo 59:46

All ages.

Patrick DeGuzman 59:47

Ava plays it. Aiden plays it. Jhoane plays it.

Meliza Manalo 59:51

Yeah. And Jhoane does not play video games. So, when she started playing it, everyone went crazy. We're like, "Oh my god, Jhoane's gonna play a video game." Like what's next Minecraft? But she never did. She never will play Minecraft.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:00:09

Minecraft though, I feel like she'd like if she played it. She likes to watch Aiden play it.

Meliza Manalo 1:00:14


Patrick DeGuzman 1:00:16

Do you think Emma's gonna play video games?

Meliza Manalo 1:00:19

I think so. But I feel like she's more of an active person. But I don't know. She's just so young. But she likes to do anything that Aiden does.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:00:30

Yeah, I see that. I see that. I feel like she wants to do it better though, too. You know?

Meliza Manalo 1:00:36

I feel like they're gonna play Mario Kart a lot. Because that's one of Aiden's favorite games. And it's gonna be super competitive. And they're always gonna play those competitive type games. Yeah, they had Tekken or something. I don't know if Street Fighter is still around.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:00:55

Street Fighter.

Meliza Manalo 1:00:56

Yeah, those type of games. You know what I mean?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:00:58

Yeah, I played Mortal Kombat religiously for a while. That was fun. I was playing with people from Brazil and the East Coast when I was in Cali.

Meliza Manalo 1:01:10


Patrick DeGuzman 1:01:11

Yeah. I had over a thousand hours on that game.

Meliza Manalo 1:01:14

We were a Tekken family.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:01:16


Meliza Manalo 1:01:16

We played a lot of Tekken. Mm hmm.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:01:19

I remember I played Tekken and I was always the dinosaur.

Meliza Manalo 1:01:22

The dinosaur?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:01:23

Yeah, the little dinosaur with the boxing gloves.

Meliza Manalo 1:01:26

And was the other one? Do you remember that game? Where it's different cars and you go to different places, but you're trying to destroy each other? What is it called? There's that one with the crazy clown ice-cream truck.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:01:50

Oh, Twisted metal?

Meliza Manalo 1:01:51

Twisted Metal. Yeah.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:01:53

Yeah. I still have that on my PSP. And I played it. I played it recently this year.

Meliza Manalo 1:01:59

Really? I was always Flower Power.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:02:02

Flower Power? I was always The Undertaker. Great, dude.

Meliza Manalo 1:02:10

That was a good game. I loved that game. And I was Axel. The guy that just has wheels in its body.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:02:20

Yeah, Axel.

Meliza Manalo 1:02:21

Yeah. I don't know why I picked him. But I just thought it was really fascinating. I was like, he turned himself into...

Patrick DeGuzman 1:02:28

It's fun.

Meliza Manalo 1:02:29

Mm hmm.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:02:30

Or the cops.

Meliza Manalo 1:02:31

Oh, yeah. There's the cops. Those are good games.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:02:35

Oh, yes. Games these days, like the RPG games these days, they don't fascinate me as much.

Meliza Manalo 1:02:44

Yeah, I mean, Witcher is good.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:02:46

Yeah, that's like the last one. That's like 2015. That was the last game I was just 'into' into. Or Fallout 4, I don't know which one came out later. I think Fallout 4 came out after. So probably that one.

Meliza Manalo 1:02:58

Fallout 4 is good and all, but it has kind of a... the story is okay. I don't know because you have the different endings and all. But it's not like Fallout 3 where you can really grow your person I guess if that makes sense. Like how you have karma and stuff like that?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:03:24

No, there's no karma in that one.

Meliza Manalo 1:03:27

But fallout 4, it's fun. Because all the buildings, like you're rebuilding the wasteland, basically.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:03:33


Meliza Manalo 1:03:34

So that aspect is fun.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:03:36


Meliza Manalo 1:03:38

Okay, you're almost done. Did you do the single one? Or did you do the, I think it's like single, married or...

Patrick DeGuzman 1:03:45

Couples? I did single.

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Patrick DeGuzman 1:04:16

Alright, let's see. 'Quality time'.

Meliza Manalo 1:04:20

Ah, so you got what Casey got. What's your ranking for the other ones?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:04:26

So physical touch is 23%, acts of service is 27%, quality time is 33%, words of affirmation is 13%, receiving gifts is 3%.

Meliza Manalo 1:04:36

Okay, so 'Words of affirmation' and 'Receiving gifts' is low on the totem pole.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:04:41

Yeah, I don't really beg for gifts for my significant other or family members.

Meliza Manalo 1:04:50

Yeah, I can see that.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:04:52

What are we talking about again?

Meliza Manalo 1:04:53

Well, our topic is supposed to be personalities and video games.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:04:58

Yeah, we went on too many tangents. I think I did. I tend to do that with people.

Meliza Manalo 1:05:05

That's okay though. I don't know how long we've been on it, what time did we start?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:05:10

I think we started at, let me check the last time you texted me 06:49. Is there anything else that you want to talk about with it?

Meliza Manalo 1:05:21

I don't know, we kind of already talked. I agree with the article. So, going back to the article, it says that introverts pick more RPGs, more solo games, whereas extroverts pick more multiplayer games. And like talking to you about it, I feel like the article is pretty accurate because you are in the middle, you're an ambivert. So, you enjoy both. Do you prefer one over the other? Because on the quiz, you technically got extrovert.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:05:54

Yeah, I don't prefer one or the other cuz I like a good story. But I also like playing with friends. Because I feel like it's a bonding experience. Even whether it be telling stories about that RPG you played with somebody else who's played it? Yeah. I like doing that too.

Meliza Manalo 1:06:16

Yeah. So, I think it's pretty accurate. Like, even when we play, when we were saying earlier when we play multiplayer games. Even the multiplayer games, I'm more solo. And you can do both. Sometimes you're solo and sometimes you'll go and raid someone's camp with people. So, you're both. I definitely agree.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:06:40

Yeah, when we play Minecraft. I'll go out do my own thing, but also have little RPG stuff. Like, I have... Oh! my police station or my armor shop or my farm, would you like to trade this for this? You know? I'm a humble farmer. Yeah, stuff like that.

Meliza Manalo 1:07:01

Yeah, exactly.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:07:04

I'm but a humble farmer. Yeah.

Meliza Manalo 1:07:05

So, I think I agree. I agree with that article. I think it's pretty accurate.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:07:11

Yeah, I would agree so too. I did say I was more on the extrovert side. But I'm definitely more in the middle.

Meliza Manalo 1:07:20

Yeah. I personally think you're an ambivert.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:07:23

Yeah. The first time you said ambivert, I thought you said AMBER Alert. And I was like, excuse me?

Meliza Manalo 1:07:29

Oh! Well, it's not a very commonly used term. I think that's why.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:07:35

Yeah. Cuz seems like people are just like, "You're one or the other", you know?

Meliza Manalo 1:07:41

But it's definitely a spectrum.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:07:43

For sure.

Meliza Manalo 1:07:44

Like, no one's fully an introvert and extrovert. I forgot someone talked about that. Like, it's just impossible to be 100% one thing. But I think in the Myers Briggs test, I'm apparently like 96% an introvert. Which is a lot.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:08:04

That is a lot. When I did my test, I was 53% extrovert.

Meliza Manalo 1:08:12

So, you really are down the middle.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:08:15

Yeah. I was like 47% introvert. So, it's like...

Meliza Manalo 1:08:20


Patrick DeGuzman 1:08:20

So, like, I could see it. I could see that spectrum, you know?

Meliza Manalo 1:08:26

So, on the test, you probably just scored one point above or something. Like a couple points above. But you really are almost right down the middle. Interesting. That's good to know. And so yeah, so we talked about that topic and see if this is where I would be asking my icebreaker question or the question, I ask my guests every time. But I haven't thought about yet. So, if you can think of a question, just shoot me a text. I don't know. I'll think of something. But for this episode, let's see. What's a good... Do you have a good, crazy story to end the episode? That you can share? You're always full of stories.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:09:11

What do you want to hear from me? I got drunk stories, I got personal stories. I have a lot of drunk stories. Actually, surprised to start. I feel like people would find interest in them.

Meliza Manalo 1:09:26

Like what's your craziest drunk story then?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:09:32

I would say the craziest drunk story I had was the first time I came to... So, I'm currently in O‘ahu in Hawaii. And the first night I decided to go out for a friend's birthday party, I was attacked by what I perceived as a prostitute. I'm not gonna say she was a prostitute, but the things she was saying, kind of made me think she was. I don't know if that's appropriate.

Meliza Manalo 1:10:06

We'll just say, 'Lady of the night'.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:10:11

Lady of the night. A lady who wanted to have a good time at four in the morning.

Meliza Manalo 1:10:18

There you go.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:10:18

Yeah. But would you like to hear that story?

Meliza Manalo 1:10:23


Patrick DeGuzman 1:10:24


Meliza Manalo 1:10:25

Entertain my listeners with your crazy story.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:10:28

So, first of all, I've lived in Hawaii for about, since April of 2019 I've been living here. And I didn't go out drinking, out in town drinking until probably say mid-November. So that's quite a lot of time. So, I didn't really know the scene. I know, in Hawaii, they have this thing called 'First Fridays'. And so, I was out there doing a First Friday. So, I was at my friend's birthday party. We went to Italian food. Then we went to Dave and Buster's, had a good time. And me wanting the party to keep going, I said, "Hey, let's go to a karaoke bar." And if you don't know, my family is very big on karaoke. Karaoke till 3am. And I'm always the one to get us to start singing. And everybody is in the mood. You know, you have started with those first three songs, that song by Journey. Everybody knows it. There's song with the Backstreet Boys. And then that's how you get to get everybody in the mood. Oh, and that song by Shaggy, 'It wasn't me', everybody knows that song. So, we're at this karaoke, we're there for a few hours, we pay and then, I was like, "You know what, the night is still young. Does anybody else want to do something else? We can go to this bar. This bar is called Moose's." And if anybody from Hawaii is listening and they've been to Moose's, they know. They know what I'm about to get into. So, I went to Moose's and we ended up partying and a lot of crazy people there. Our group wasn't too sane it as is. But after we all were done ready to go home, my buddy was like, who took me there who hadn't been drinking that night, just disappeared. I guess he got angry with somebody. And so, I was like, "Oh, shoot. I'm kind of drunk. Sober enough to know where I'm at and how to work my phone, but I'm not sober enough to get myself home if I was to drive, so don't drink and drive." That's my little personal statement, or my PSA. But I was looking for my friend. He wasn't answering his phone, he wasn't answering my texts. I wait around the front for about 15 minutes. So, I said fuck it. I'm just gonna take an Uber to his car, that's how we got there. And so, I take an Uber to his car. I'm sitting by his car waiting for 20 minutes. I call him ask him where he's at. And I text him. I see that he read it and I'm like, okay, he's still okay. Because he's reading my text messages. Maybe he just needs some time to himself. So, I wait there for about 20 minutes. At this point, it's like 03:30 in the morning. I'm tired. I ate Italian food that made me sleepy. I was at Dave and Buster's, had some drinks made me sleepy. I was singing karaoke, it made me sleepy. And I was at the club. I was exhausted. I was like, I am ready to go home. So, we parked near a Walmart. And so, I'm walking to this Walmart. And I decided to sit by the side of it. And I called my Uber. After a few minutes of waiting there, this dude comes up to me. He's wearing a very nice button up, some black pants, and some vampire boots, I'm gonna call them. And he goes up to me says, "Hey, you got the time? And I'm like, "Yeah, I got the time." It's about 03:45 in the morning. He goes, "Oh, cool." Takes a few steps, looks at me and he goes, "Do you want to have a good time tonight?" And I'm like, "No, I already had a good time. I just want to go home and just go to sleep." And he goes, "No, no, no. Come on. Let's go have a good time." And I'm like, "No, I'm all right. Thank you." And he goes, "Are you sure?" And I'm like, "Yeah, I'm positive." And then I just start walking away. And I move closer to the front of the Walmart. It's a 24-hour Walmart I believe; I don't really remember. And then this lady. she's wearing this really tight dress, and these heels. And she comes up to me and she goes, "Hey, what are you doing are all here by yourself?" And I'm just like, "Ummm I'm just waiting for my Uber, trying go home." And she's like, "Oh, well, can I wait with you?" And I was just like, "Ummm he's almost here. I don't. I don't really want to..." I didn't know what to say, so I was kind of mumbling. And she says, "Well, do you wanna have a good time tonight?" And I was like, "No I'm good." I'm ready to go home at this point, like four in the morning. She's like, "Come on, let's have a good time." And when I get annoyed to a point, I just don't answer. I don't look at you and I just keep walking and I just completely ignore them. So, I do that. She did not take that very kindly. She starts getting upset and starts yelling and being aggressive. And as I'm running away, because she starts chasing me, she throws her heel at me. I'm like, what did I do to this girl? It's four in the morning. At this point, I'm sober. So, my Uber had been texting me, asked me where I was. Because Hawaii streets are very difficult to maneuver sometimes. And I just call him like, "Hey, you need to get here now. I'm being chased." And they're like, "Wait, what? I was like, "Yeah, this crazy lady is trying to chase me." And he goes, "I'm almost there." I walk up to the Uber. I get in and I just tell them to just drive and I finally drive off. And this dude, I don't know why, but this Uber thought it would be okay and he just scolds me the whole time. Like as I'm going home, I'm like, huh, okay, whatever,

Meliza Manalo 1:16:13

He was lecturing you?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:16:15

Yeah, he was lecturing me when I was going home. But that's not even the crazy part, getting attacked by the prostitute. The crazy part was when I texted my buddy the next day. So, after all this happens. I want to go check on my buddy to make sure he's okay. I call him and he says, "Bro, I'm sorry about last night. Sorry, you had to go home by yourself." I'm like, "What happened to you?" He is like, "Nah, the club just made me angry." And I was just like, "Oh, that's fine. Okay. Are you okay?" He goes, "Yeah. But somebody broke into my car last night." And I'm like, "What? Are you serious?" He goes, "Yes. Somebody's broke into my car last night." I'm like, "That's crazy. Do you know what he was wearing?" And this is the part that gets me. He was wearing a nice button up shirt. And he was wearing black pants. And my buddy said, some boots, like some steel toed boots, or like the kind of vampire boots, right? And he goes, "Yeah." And I was like, "How did you see him?" He goes, "Well, I get into my car. And I look over to my right. And I think it's you in the passenger seat. And I'm like, "Oh, what's up, goose?" And then I look over and I'm like, oh, wait, that's not goose. And I look in that my mirror is broken. And so then, he just starts wailing on this dude trying to get him out of his car, dude breaks his mirror. And my buddy starts chasing him down the street. And he gives up and he gets into his car. And he's driving home, and he tells me the story. I'm like, "I'll be over I want to see you." You know, my buddy cuts his hand. And when he's telling me this, I'm like, "Bro, that sounds like the same exact dude, who tried to get me to buy a prostitute from him, or if he asked me if I wanted to have a good time." He goes, "Nah, that's crazy." I was like, "Well, I was sitting by your car for a long time. He might have gotten mad and decided to hit your car."

Meliza Manalo 1:18:23

Probably thought it was your car.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:18:24

Yeah, he probably thought it was mine. And it was just like, oh, he left in an Uber. So, this car is gonna be abandoned for the night. But yeah, that's probably one of my craziest, drinking stories. And that was my first night in Hawaii. And I didn't go out drinking after that.

Meliza Manalo 1:18:42

Scared from drinking.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:18:45

Yeah, I would just go out to my friend's house and drink. And then COVID hit. And I wasn't able to go out drinking or go out partying. But yeah, that's probably one of my scariest stories. And then when I woke up the next day, I didn't realize that I also was strapped. She scratched up my arms and my back had a bruise on it for where she threw that heel at me. I didn't even know it. I don't even know she hit me that hard. I guess I was still drunk, but like sober at the same time.

Meliza Manalo 1:19:19

Geez. So hard. What kind of shoes?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:19:23

I'm talking like stiletto heels.

Meliza Manalo 1:19:25

That's crazy.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:19:28

Yeah, but that was my first night being out till 4am in Hawaii.

Meliza Manalo 1:19:37

All right. Well, thanks for sharing. Thanks for ending this episode on a very odd and terrifying story by the way. I'd be terrified if I was your friend. Finding some random stranger next to me in my car.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:19:53

Yeah, and thinking it was me. Right?

Meliza Manalo 1:19:55

Yeah. I'd be terrified. Geez. I'm glad everyone's okay though. I'm glad you're okay. And your friend is okay. No one got hurt. I mean, unfortunately, he has to fix his car. But other than that, no one got hurt.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:20:12

Yeah. So that's pretty much. It was it was a good night ended terribly. But up until then, it was good.

Meliza Manalo 1:20:23

All right, Patty, do you have any last things you want to tell the listeners?

Patrick DeGuzman 1:20:27

Yeah. Thanks for having me on here. And I look forward to listening to all your podcasts in the future. And I look forward to telling people more stories. You know, hopefully, maybe I'll think of making a podcast you know, and get some little influence from you.

Meliza Manalo 1:20:46

Oh, I'd be super excited to hear your podcast. If that happens, we can like guest on each other's podcast. I'll definitely plug you. I'll share you on my Instagram and all that.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:20:58

Oh, yeah. I appreciate that. But thanks for having me.

Meliza Manalo 1:21:02

Yeah. Thanks, Patty. Thanks for getting on. I'm sure to have you on plenty of more future podcast episodes.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:21:10

I look forward to it. We could probably even do a podcast while we play a game.

Meliza Manalo 1:21:15

Yeah, that'd be fun. That'd be a good one.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:21:18

Yeah, with everybody, but then.

Meliza Manalo 1:21:20

Oh my god, that'd be crazy.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:21:22

Yeah. Brandon says some pretty dicey things.

Meliza Manalo 1:21:26

Yeah, that will take some editing on my part definitely.

Patrick DeGuzman 1:21:32

Yep. All right. Well, thanks for having me.

Meliza Manalo 1:21:35

Thanks, Patty. Alright guys, that's the end. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed having Patrick on the podcast. I definitely plan on having him on here more often. And hopefully we get some more of his crazy stories. I hope you guys enjoyed that one. If you like the show and want to stay in the know, please follow me on social media. I am on Instagram as thetalkativeintrovertpodcast. I'm also on Facebook, you could find me as just 'The Talkative Introvert'. You can also check out my website at And all the information is there as well as in the description. Please give me a follow. Please share with others who you think would love the podcast just as much as you do. And also reach out to me if you want to. If you have any topic ideas, if you want to chit chat about the most current episode or even previous episodes. I'm more than happy to hear from all of you guys and I'm pretty curious so as to what you guys think anyways. So, please let me know. So, thanks so much for listening again. I appreciate all the downloads, all the listens and all that. So, thanks guys and I will talk to you in the next episode.

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