Updated: Sep 6, 2021
I am joined again with my INTJ sister-in-law, Leah. We scour the internet for a list of INTJ misconceptions and share the ones that really speak out to us. The first half of the episode, we break down these misconceptions and explain why they’re inaccurate. Then the second half really is just two INTJs ranting about random stuff. Enjoy!
Some parts of the transcript may be edited for better readability, but the content remains the same. Mostly removed duplicate words, vocal filler words, and added/removed some words for clarification.
Continuation from Part 2...
Meliza Manalo 1:25:53
I need to make dinner still. I've eaten two apples. And peanut butter.
And me, I had to have a pizza. (Laughter) I'm very lazy today. That's why I have to do the yoga.
Meliza Manalo 1:26:07
I bought an apple slicer.
Oh my god. They make things more efficient.
Meliza Manalo 1:26:13
Cuz I eat a lot of apples. Yeah, it's like one swipe, you know?
Yeah. I feel that.
Meliza Manalo 1:26:17
You just push it down. It's honestly the best thing ever. I love it. Pizza all the time.
Meliza Manalo 1:26:25
Yeah. Like it's seriously the best thing I bought this year so far.
Well, I mean, it's only eight days into the year so, that's not as sad as it sounds.
Meliza Manalo 1:26:43
That's true. Because I was thinking one day, because I was cutting out my apple. And I cut up pieces for Link too, you know, so we can eat an apple together. That's why I always have two apples. And it's taking me forever. And I had a meeting. But um... I don't know, I always get like... during my lunch, I always end up doing something and then doing that for a long time. And so, actually eating lunch or making myself a lunch. And so I was trying to quickly cut up the apple, but I don't want to cut myself and then I made a little pieces for link. And then I was thinking this is so stupid. Why does it take so long to cut a damn apple? And I realized. I was like, wait a minute. There's Apple slicers. So, I bought Apple slicer that day.
That's an INTJ thing right there. 100%.
Meliza Manalo 1:27:35
That's so frustrating because I don't like eating the apple... I have to slice an apple because I don't like eating the apple because then it's like sticky and then the juice gets on your hand. No, then you can't touch anything. Stupid. Then you're down one hand.
It saves clean up time, slicing time. Like how much more efficient can you get?
Meliza Manalo 1:27:57
Exactly. Best purchase ever, you guys, to eat apples.
Meliza Manalo 1:28:02
Yeah. An Apple slicer.
And better to eat apples. Like bananas?
Meliza Manalo 1:28:08
Oh, those are easy.
Yeah. Bananas are efficient. Maybe that's why I liked them so much.
Meliza Manalo 1:28:15
Just grab one and go.
Meliza Manalo 1:28:18
Just tell him to go out. (Talking to Brandon)
Link is stinkers.
Meliza Manalo 1:28:25
Anyways, that's why I hate oranges. (Laughter)
Oh, my God. Really though, I get too lazy to eat oranges. Okay, so maybe this is a misconception, I feel like, about me. Or people think I'm lazy, which I mean, granted, I can be very lazy. I know sometimes I feel very lazy. But it's because like, I don't want to do certain things because it just takes too much time. And it's not worth the time that it takes. Like peeling an orange. Yeah, oranges are good. And they're good for you. But it's really not worth the time and the mess it takes to prepare it.
Meliza Manalo 1:29:17
Yeah, because you have to use both hands. Both hands are sticky. You have to peel it. Unless you're the type that peels and eats at the same time, which is a no no for me. I have to get the whole thing. And then eat it.
I think... Yeah, I think that's what I do too. And I'm so just weird. And I don't like that extra film. Like after you peel it. You know the white stuff on it.
Meliza Manalo 1:29:45
Oh, yeah, I always peel that off.
Yeah, so I have to double peel it. And it's just annoying.
Meliza Manalo 1:29:53
Yeah. And this isn't an INTJ thing. But I have eczema and I'm allergic to fruits. So, it's killer when fruit juice gets on my hands. Oh my gosh, it hurts. It's like getting lemon on your cuts.
Ohh. That sounds miserable.
Meliza Manalo 1:30:15
Yeah, it is. So, oranges. suck Like, just give me some orange juice.
Yeah, really though.
Meliza Manalo 1:30:23
This is so interesting.
And I always... I know. We're so interesting. But props to you if you've made it this far into the episode. But um... I feel like I always have to be eating, or I have to be doing something while I'm eating. Like, I can't just sit down and eat most of the time unless I'm sitting down and eating with people. And I'm like, yeah, let's sit down, let's eat, let's talk, whatever. But if it's just me, like when I'm home alone or something, I have to be doing something while I'm eating.
Meliza Manalo 1:31:01
Yeah. Me too.
It's hard for me... So, it's hard for me to eat things that are messy. Because I need my hands. And also like, you know, when we're getting into one of our moods like a crafting mood or something, and you're doing a project that you have to finish all in one. And it takes hours. But you can't take a break to eat. I would hate like, I would go hours without eating because that's how much I don't want to stop when I do something.
Meliza Manalo 1:31:32
Same. Like I'll be on it the whole day.
Like my bladder will be bursting. Yeah.
Meliza Manalo 1:31:37
(Laughter) Bladder will be bursting. Yeah.
Yeah. I get to the point where I'm doing the pee dance while I'm working on something. And then finally get to the point where I'm like, I'm about to pee my pants. So, then I really have to go. But then it makes the bathroom time go by faster. Because I'm like, in and out.
Meliza Manalo 1:31:56
Yeah, I had to stop doing that though. Because I got a UTI.
Meliza Manalo 1:32:02
And that's because I was holding my pee too much. And then I was like, yeah, I probably shouldn't do that. That's not natural. That's the first time I've ever had one. I've never had one before. And it was because I was holding my pee a bunch.
Oh my god, that would happen to people at Chipotle.
Meliza Manalo 1:32:21
Because peak hours. So for those of you who haven't worked at Chipotle, we have peak hours, where you're not allowed to move from your spot for like... it's what ours I think ours was like two or three hours long. It was three hours long.
Meliza Manalo 1:32:38
I don't remember. Two?
Maybe only two. I think mine was two or three. I've heard of New York. There's a store in New York where their peak hours are like four hours long.
Meliza Manalo 1:32:48
Jesus! Four hours?
Meliza Manalo 1:32:53
That's way too long.
Yeah. And you can't move. And so, the girls would get UTIs all the time.
Meliza Manalo 1:33:01
Ah, that's awful. Yeah, there's.... I don't know if I should tell this story. But...
Just tell the story. You can cut it later if you need to.
Meliza Manalo 1:33:15
No, it's fine. Cuz I would just tell this to a normal person, to anyone anyways. So, there's this one time was during peak. And I was in the back, you know, back of the house?
Meliza Manalo 1:33:28
And I was at the grill. And I think... because I'm also lactose intolerant, right. So, I think I had a burrito for breakfast or something. And it had sour cream in it. And we were in the middle peak. And I was about to explode. Like I legit, like, probably gonna poop in my pants. And then the whole time, I was freaking out. And I was getting super sweaty. And luckily...
It was already hot in the grill.
Meliza Manalo 1:34:01
Yeah. It's like super-hot. And I was getting sweaty. And I was moving around weird. And then like the grill guy noticed and he's like, "Meliza, you okay?" I was like, no. I was like, can you finish cutting up this chicken so I can go to the bathroom? (Laughter) And he was just cracking up and then the moment he said, yes, I just put it down and I ran to the bathroom. Like I booked it to the bathroom. But then because that's Chipotle. I don't know if it's like this everywhere. But you know how they have a key.
Like only one stall?
Meliza Manalo 1:34:38
Oh, no, not the key. We didn't have the key anymore. But they only... Yeah, they only had one stall. And someone was in the stall. And I was like, are you kidding me right now? I was freaking out and I still had my apron on too.
Meliza Manalo 1:34:53
But don't worry. Don't worry guys. I put it straight into the hamper afterwards. And I still had my gloves and my hand my apron on and then the lady finally came out and I just like went in and just basically exploded. (Laughter)
Oh, that's horrible.
Meliza Manalo 1:35:11
Oh my god. That was so funny. Because you're not allowed to leave. You're not supposed to leave.
Yeah. How did I not hear this story before?
Meliza Manalo 1:35:20
I was just so embarrassed but now it's like who cares? You know? Yeah, but back then I was so embarrassed.
Oh, my God.
Meliza Manalo 1:35:30
And I just felt so bad because like there's another lady waiting also outside by the time I got out. And she probably was so disgusted because I was still, you know, like I was the grill lady. (Laughter) So, I hope... I don't know if she saw me at the grill before or after that.
It would suck if it was after.
Meliza Manalo 1:35:53
Oh, she probably left. She probably didn't even buy any chipotle after that.
Yeah, cuz our Chipotle, the bathroom is in the line. So, you could like, go to the bathroom and then get back in line.
Meliza Manalo 1:36:09
Yeah, that's an awful spot too. Because people know you went to the bathroom. And if it stink, they know what you did. (Laughter)
That's true. Never thought about that.
Meliza Manalo 1:36:25
Oh, geez. I will never forget that. Because you're told not to leave peak. You have to be at your station.
And they're like, they're strict about it. They are strict. I've had times where I've had to go to the bathroom. They're like, "No". They're straight up like, "No. You need to wait." And I'm like, okay.
Meliza Manalo 1:36:46
Yeah. Cuz you're supposed to be able to create an order under 20 seconds or something like that. Something stupid like that. Which I mean, come on. If someone's going to be ordering like eight burritos, that's not happening.
Yeah. Oh my god. The big families that come in?
Meliza Manalo 1:37:04
Oh, yeah. Especially if they don't know what they're saying. Or like, are those people who will have orders like a bunch of orders, but they're on their phone. Like, it's all text, you know? And they're like, "Oh, hold on. This one is this, this and this. And then this one says, this, this and this." And then they'll be, "Oh, wait, no. No, not that one." And I'm like, oh, my God, and then everyone is angry.
There's not much that I hate more than disorganization. I just cannot understand for the life of me how people can be so disorganized. I just... I can't understand it.
Meliza Manalo 1:37:48
I know. Life would just be easier for you if you just organize it properly. Like there's this one customer. I was so happy when we have this customer. Because he had multiple orders. And first, he told us in advance, like, "Hey, I'm gonna have this many orders." And I was like, great. Let's hear it. But what he did is that he typed it out and printed out the order. And I was like...
Oh, my God.
Meliza Manalo 1:38:18
And I was like, you could have just done this online. But anyways, he typed it out. And then he just held it up for us to read it. And it was perfect.
Oh, my God. Like a dream.
Meliza Manalo 1:38:30
I know. And I was like, thank you. Thank you so much. You're the best customer ever.
I love when people make things easy like that.
Meliza Manalo 1:38:39
Cuz that's what I do. I go over it in my head a million times trying to find the best way and the fastest way to order stuff.
Meliza Manalo 1:38:49
I just hate keeping people waiting. I hate it.
Meliza Manalo 1:38:54
Oh, I know. I hate... I don't know why. Maybe because I don't like waiting.
Oh, I hate waiting.
Meliza Manalo 1:39:00
And I don't want to make people wait.
Yeah. It's the worst. It's such a waste of time.
Meliza Manalo 1:39:06
Was there any more that you wanted to add to this?
Meliza Manalo 1:39:10
I think we went over all the misconceptions that I had.
Meliza Manalo 1:39:14
I mean I had like the psychopath-sociopath. But that's kind of the same thing with the emotionless and not...
Yeah, yeah, I think I did bring that one up, too.
Meliza Manalo 1:39:22
Yeah, we talked about it already. No, we're not murderers. And yes, we can read emotions, just not as well as the average person. There you go. (Laughter)
That's the gist.
Meliza Manalo 1:39:36
Yeah, exactly. No, that's it. Do you have anything else?
No. I think that is all for me.
Meliza Manalo 1:39:44
Cool. Well, thanks. Thanks for going on the podcast. I really like doing the INTJ episodes.
I do, too. They're so much fun.
Meliza Manalo 1:39:54
They're my favorite. I mean, we've only done one. (Laughter)
I know. Obviously, people love it.
Meliza Manalo 1:40:01
Yeah. Oh, that's the thing I was gonna bring up. So, you know how I made a joke earlier that people think this is so interesting sarcastically?
Meliza Manalo 1:40:12
So, someone on Facebook reached out or commented or whatever you do on Facebook. And was like, "I didn't think this episode was boring at all or those parts of the episodes boring at all. I actually related to everything you guys said." And I was like, yes! Thank you!
Oh, that makes me feel so good. Cuz I do feel boring sometimes. Like a part of me couldn't kind of understand why people think we're not fun.
Meliza Manalo 1:40:39
Meliza Manalo 1:40:42
Cuz of the things we talk about.
Yeah. It's like when I really think about it, I'm like... and I compare it to what other people talk about? Like, oh, yeah, I guess that could be boring. But to me, it's not.
Meliza Manalo 1:40:53
Like talking about oranges?
Yeah. (Laughter) Peeling fruits. (Laughter) I didn't bring up mangoes. I love mangoes.
Meliza Manalo 1:41:03
Ahh I love mangoes but hate prepping a mango. That damn seed in the middle.
Oh, see. That is the only reason why I hate it is because of the seed. But the ends? Like we when you cut it, right?
Meliza Manalo 1:41:17
And you know, you do the crisscross thing. There's no other way to do a mango. No other way. And it drives me insane when someone does not cut it properly.
Meliza Manalo 1:41:30
You eat the the the meat around the bone in the middle?
Oh, yeah, I do. But I eat the slides first was my favorite part. Cuz it got all the meat. But yeah, I'll just shove it all in my mouth. And I try to get as much off of it as I can. But it's not as fun to eat as the end.
Meliza Manalo 1:41:52
No, definitely not. And I have to eat it because it's just wasteful if you don't eat it.
Meliza Manalo 1:41:57
It's the worst part.
It is. It's annoying.
Meliza Manalo 1:42:00
But yeah. I know. I think about that, too. Or like my conversations with you. If we were to talk about the same things with someone else like Bailey, maybe? They'll just be like, "Okay. Cool." Because there's so... I think I could talk about this with you though. There's a segment of the last episode? One of the episodes. Oh, the last episode that I took out because I was like, this seems so stupid and boring. But maybe to an INTJ... Because after that person sent that comment, I was like, oh, maybe they'll like this one. But basically, so my last episode is Episode 29, right? But I freaking hate that number. (Laughter)
I was just gonna say why didn't you end it on 30.
Meliza Manalo 1:42:52
I know. But like, I just was too busy. And I was like, I need to just close it and take a break and just organize myself again. And so, I went on this whole rant about numbers, because I'm very particular about numbers.
Meliza Manalo 1:43:11
And so, I don't like the number 29 because it ends in a nine. And anything that ends in a 9 has to round up or round down. So if it's 29, it should be 30. Like, that's why I really hate my birthday because I wish it was on the 20th. And then I went on a rant about like, my favorite numbers. I don't like 1s, 4s, 7s and 9s. And I used to have this really bad problem. I don't have it as much anymore. But on radios where it's a number... the volume is a number and not like the ticks or something, I can't put them in those numbers. Like if it's going to land on a 1 for example. So like 11? It needs to go down to 10. And then it felt like... on a 2. Oh, 2 I think is the other one. 12, it has to go to 13. And if it lands on 14, it has to go either 13 or 15. And then if it lands on a 7, it'll have to go to either 18 or 16. And if it lands on a nine, it has to go up. It can't go down. So, won't go down to 18 but will go up to 20.
Oh my god. Yeah. I'm similar but not that extreme. But I have to have them on multiples of 5.
Meliza Manalo 1:44:34
Yeah, that's a big one too. Like it has to be multiples of 5. I don't know what my reasoning is behind those. I think they just have to be divisible by certain numbers.
Meliza Manalo 1:44:46
Like my favorite number is 36.
That's random. See mine. You're gonna hate this. My favorite number is 11.
Meliza Manalo 1:44:53
Oh, see, I hate... No, actually. If they're doubles, it's okay.
Because it's symmetrical.
Meliza Manalo 1:44:58
If it's like 11, 22, 33, that's fine.
Yeah. (Laughter) Oh man. Yeah. And you know why I like the number 11?
Meliza Manalo 1:45:09
Because truly the number 1 is my favorite number, but I feel like that makes me sound selfish. So, I say it's 11. (Laughter)
Meliza Manalo 1:45:17
Oh my goodness. That's funny.
But really, I think number one is the prettiest number.
Meliza Manalo 1:45:26
Yeah, I think that's why I like 36. It's voluptuous.
Oh, you've told me this before. Yes.
Meliza Manalo 1:45:32
Have I? I don't know. I don't know if I've ever told anyone. But I guess I told you.
Yeah I think you have told me this before. And I do... this is bad. I like the number 69 because I like that they fit together like that.
Meliza Manalo 1:45:44
Mm hmm. Yeah, me too. I just hate the connotation behind it.
Meliza Manalo 1:45:52
But yeah. I don't know. I deleted that whole segment. Because I was like, who's gonna care about what how I feel about numbers?
Me. (Laughter) It's equally as weird. I think isn't Brandon the same way?
Meliza Manalo 1:46:07
Umm, no. I don't think so.
I feel like he can put... I feel like he's worried about the volume thing too.
Meliza Manalo 1:46:14
I'll try to... I'll see if I noticed that next time.
Yeah. Ask him because I'm pretty sure he can only put in numbers that are divisible by 5 also.
Meliza Manalo 1:46:24
Yeah. Because I get really depressed when the number below is too low. And then number above is too high. Like the sound... the volume. Cuz it just makes me so depressed. Cuz it's like it's too quiet. But then it's too loud.
Oh, yes. I hate that. I hate it so much. And my frickin... I always max out my volume on my phone and in my car. So it's just the max. But the max volume in my car is 63.
Meliza Manalo 1:46:57
Why? Why is it 63? Why isn't it 60? Or 65? It's so annoying.
Meliza Manalo 1:47:09
Yeah, I don't like the number 65 because I want it to be 66. The 60s is a weird one.
How weird. It's so weird.
Meliza Manalo 1:47:20
But I'm really... I'm a lot better now. Like I... you know, like exposure therapy? So, I would put a volume, at 14 for example. 14 specifically. I remember 14 because that was the one I started with, and I just kept it there. And I just kept it there until I forgot. But it took a really long time for me to forget. But I'm doing better at it. Sometimes I'll just do the volume and just not look at it. So, I don't have to worry about it.
Oh, I do that too. I try not to look at it.
Meliza Manalo 1:47:54
But then I'll look at it. Like say I'm in the car. And I do that. Right before I leave the car. I'll check to see. Because I wanted to know if subconsciously, I know what number it's on. You know, like I want to know if it lands on a number that I like. Or like yeah. Or if it doesn't actually matter. Like my brain doesn't care.
It's really sad that I completely understand that. Such a weird thing.
Meliza Manalo 1:48:22
Like, I don't know, if that's like a mental thing. Like is that like an OCD thing? Or like... I don't know. I don't know if that's... I mean, it doesn't affect my way of life in any way. So, it doesn't matter. But I'm just curious if that's a mental thing. Like, I want to know why. Cuz I don't know why.
I know. I don't know why either.
Meliza Manalo 1:48:49
And why numbers?
Maybe because they're easier to control. It's gotta be a control thing.
Meliza Manalo 1:48:57
Yeah, I think so too. It's probably a control thing.
So, I'm a bit of a control freak.
Meliza Manalo 1:49:02
Cuz I also don't like those volumes where it's two bars that are on top of each other. So like, when there'll be one full bar, and then you could go up half a bar, and then it's a full bar again. I don't like when it's half a bar. It has to be a full bar. If that makes sense.
Yeah. No, I know what you mean.
Meliza Manalo 1:49:23
Yeah. It must be a control thing. I am a control freak. Is that an INTJ thing?
I feel like it is.
Meliza Manalo 1:49:32
I think it is. I think I've read that.
I think it is for sure. I'm sure it's part of a few personalities. But I'm pretty sure it's definitely an INTJ thing.
Meliza Manalo 1:49:45
I feel like a psychiatrist, if they ever listen to this episode, they're probably gonna diagnose me. Like this chick is definitely blah blah blah.
That would be interesting to know them.
Meliza Manalo 1:50:03
Like, I would want to know, but then I wouldn't want to know.
Yeah. I mean, you're fine not knowing now.
Meliza Manalo 1:50:11
Yeah, but now I'm thinking about it.
Meliza Manalo 1:50:15
I'm gonna look that up later. (Laughter) Maybe up till like two o'clock. Why do you numbers affect my brain?
Oh my god. Oh, I'm sure there's a whole thing about that. I'm a little too scared to...
Meliza Manalo 1:50:28
Yeah. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Yeah, I'm a little too scared to look that up.
Meliza Manalo 1:50:32
Why people are so particular about numbers?
Yeah, sometimes I purposely don't look something up because I know I'll obsess over it.
Meliza Manalo 1:50:38
Yeah, that's true.
For way too long.
Meliza Manalo 1:50:42
Well, I don't know, like the... I don't know if I talked about this in my Body Dysmorphia episode. But my psychiatrists asked me, why do I need to know whether I have BDD or not?
I know you did mention that.
Meliza Manalo 1:51:00
Oh, I did?
I think so.
Meliza Manalo 1:51:01
I can't remember. I honestly don't remember what I talk about anymore in previous episodes. But I think it's a justification that I'm just crazy. And I'm not actually ugly. Does that make sense? Like...
Meliza Manalo 1:51:18
Cuz if I don't have BDD, then that means I am actually hideous. Whereas if I had BDD, it's just my brain telling me that and it's not true.
Yeah. That's so sad. But it makes sense.
Meliza Manalo 1:51:36
It is sad, isn't it? Yeah. But I never actually went to get diagnosed or anything. At the end of the day, it also doesn't matter.
Meliza Manalo 1:51:46
Because regardless of whatever happens, whether I am diagnosed or not, I just need to come to the realization that I'm just going to be in this flesh and bone and be cool about it.
Yeah. Either away you have to deal with it.
Meliza Manalo 1:52:02
Yeah. Like you just have to accept that. That's how you how you look, cuz I am not going to be getting no plastic surgery. I am too broke for that anyways.
Yeah. And I could never because... just because I can't willingly put myself in that much pain.
Meliza Manalo 1:52:20
It's an unnecessary risk. To me, obviously. To other people, you do whatever you want to do. But to me, that's an unnecessary risk to go under the knife. I've seen some... I've heard some horror stories about that.
Oh, I know. Oh, scary.
Meliza Manalo 1:52:38
Yeah. Anyways, so I'm pretty sure I was trying to end the episode like half an hour ago.
Oh, yeah. (Laughter) Sounds about right. Typical Filipino goodbye.
Meliza Manalo 1:52:53
I know. God. If you want to say by at a Filipino party, say bye an hour before you're gonna leave?
Yes. At least.
Meliza Manalo 1:53:01
Yeah. At least. Cuz you gotta prep for pictures. And you have to hug everybody, and kiss everybody.
I always forget about the pictures.
Meliza Manalo 1:53:10
I know. It's comes on a surprise. And it's like, why are you shocked still?
I know. Every time. It's legitimately every time. I never remember. I always know I'm gonna have to say bye to a million people and give a million hugs and kisses and stuff. But I always forget about the pictures.
Meliza Manalo 1:53:28
And then there's always... I have like a checklist in my head of who I said goodbye to. Cuz you can't say bye to someone but not the other person, you know?
Oh, yeah. See, I've learned to pick a handful and then just disappear.
Meliza Manalo 1:53:46
Yeah, there's been times where we just disappear. They're mostly drunk anyways, so it doesn't matter.
That's very true.
Meliza Manalo 1:53:54
They're not gonna remember.
It makes it a little bit easier.
Meliza Manalo 1:53:56
We just have to always say goodbye to your mom.
Mm hmm. Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely.
Meliza Manalo 1:54:02
And then that's it. Everybody else is usually drunk. Or Jhoane. Jhoane is not always drunk.
Meliza Manalo 1:54:09
You know, the sober people. The kids. The sober people.
People who notice.
Meliza Manalo 1:54:15
Yeah. Okay, well, goodbye.
Meliza Manalo 1:54:22
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